The Footie Thread

[4LEX]

To think top clubs were calling for extra subs this season due to excessive games, yet they're signing upto play an extra 18-25 games a season

The whole thing is actually vile.

Judging by the reactions of Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool fans tonight I expect big protests coming up. Grab the popcorn this is going to go off big time!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

It's going to be so rubbish for the rest of football

Top 6 will never ever change

7th place will be a trophy that we still won't win

All the best players will go to top 6 clubs

Money won't be there to buy players for lower team

 

[Orikoru]

Would be the final nail in the coffin for me of top flight football. Already watching less and less as it is. I think if it happened I'd probably just go and find my local non league team that I can walk to and start following them instead.

 

[SaintHacker]

All this will achieve if it goes ahead is to further widen the gap between the'big 6' and the rest of the league. Nothing personal as I have friends on here following these clubs but I hope if it goes ahead the FA/Premier league grow a pair and tell any clubs going to play in it they are no longer welcome in the premier league.

 

[Bazz]

They want to earn an extra £350m compared to the rest of us and still play in the Premier League? Nothing seems unfair about that

 

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[Lord Tyrion]

I only briefly read the concept last night, read a little more this morning. How are Arsenal in this? Come on ?. Fair play to Leicester who were surely asked but turned it down ?.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out today. The vibe this morning is not great, UEFA, fifa and the PL are unified against it and this may end up being an embarrassment with clubs backtracking. I hope I'm correct.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Now read and re-read the statements that have come out over night, just who is authorising this League? All I can see is the Clubs themselves have done it, so the answer is easy.

The current Governing bodies simply don’t sanction it, the Clubs will then be forced to either stay in their Leagues or leave and if they leave the Players are no longer members, the Officials won’t be provided and the Clubs lose access to National Comps and International Comps.

All this relegation and promotion to it etc, anytime wishing to qualify should have to leave and those relegated from it have to apply to join and as I said yesterday, start at the bottom.

Further thought, how is the “Big 6” decided? Money? Fan base? etc as what if a “Big 6” Club lose their owners or go in to administration, who picks up the pieces?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I only briefly read the concept last night, read a little more this morning. How are Arsenal in this? Come on ?. Fair play to Leicester who were surely asked but turned it down ?.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out today. The vibe this morning is not great, UEFA, fifa and the PL are unified against it and this may end up being an embarrassment with clubs backtracking. I hope I'm correct.

I’d like to think the same, but to find a compromise do The PL, UEFA & FIFA give in to some of their demands? Then does it raise its head again next season and more compromise until 10-15yrs down the line the owners have got what they’ve always wanted.

 

[Orikoru]

I'm sure it won't go ahead. Not a single fan wants this and there is already talks of boycotts. Surely the owners must realise the club is nothing without fans. Or have they been blinded by recent empty stadiums due to Covid? I feel like the whole thing is bluster to blackmail the authorities into something else that they want.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'm sure it won't go ahead. Not a single fan wants this and there is already talks of boycotts. Surely the owners must realise the club is nothing without fans. Or have they been blinded by recent empty stadiums due to Covid? I feel like the whole thing is bluster to blackmail the authorities into something else that they want.

Which fans though?
Spurs v Real Madrid in Dubai, the Clubs will have TV money and the owners won’t care were the spectators come from.

The fans have never been a consideration in this as if they had the talks would of never taken place surely?

 

[SaintHacker]

I'm sure it won't go ahead. Not a single fan wants this and there is already talks of boycotts. Surely the owners must realise the club is nothing without fans. Or have they been blinded by recent empty stadiums due to Covid? I feel like the whole thing is bluster to blackmail the authorities into something else that they want.

Its been a well known fact for some time that the prem could happily function in empty stadiums due to the huge tv/sponsorship money. They clearly don't care a jot about fans or they wouldn't try to milk the for every penny they can. Boycotts will just be laughed at.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Its been a well known fact for some time that the prem could happily function in empty stadiums due to the huge tv/sponsorship money. They clearly don't care a jot about fans or they wouldn't try to milk the for every penny they can. Boycotts will just be laughed at.

Fans are completely replaceable for the "top" 6 let's face it

Day trippers, fans overseas willing to pay to watch the games

Just got to hope the league, fa, uefa and fifa stop it

But can you trust corrupt organisations to stop corruption?

 

[HomecountiesJohn]

This proposed breakaway is absolutely absurd.

All clubs involved should be immediately expelled from the PL.

In a perverse way its actually mesmerising watching the PL and sky complain and panic about how their "product" will be affected.

Let's face it, this is Capitalism v Capitlaism.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I’d like to think the same, but to find a compromise do The PL, UEFA & FIFA give in to some of their demands? Then does it raise its head again next season and more compromise until 10-15yrs down the line the owners have got what they’ve always wanted.

That’s something that has happened twice already - the formation of the CL was to satisfy the big clubs as was the extension to the amount of clubs that can qualify

UEFA and Prem Lge created this monster and they can’t control it - UEFA will announce the changes to the CL today and it will be compromised to suit the big clubs - UEFA and Prem know they can’t afford to kick out those clubs

 

[road2ruin]

Fans are completely replaceable for the "top" 6 let's face it

Day trippers, fans overseas willing to pay to watch the games

An there in lies the problem for a lot of the fan groups who are suggesting the boycott. I would imagine that Old Trafford would still be completely full even if every season ticket holder ganged together and didn't turn up, it'll be similar for other clubs as they'll be able to sell tickets to those who just want to watch big games.

 

[Tashyboy]

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MAN UTD STAND DOWN FROM ECA

Manchester United have stood down from the European Club Association (ECA) and club executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward has stepped down from his UEFA roles.

Sky in Italy have confirmed Juventus, AC Milan and Inter Milan have also left the ECA.

Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli has also resigned as ECA chairman, a position he held since 2012, and left his post as a member of the UEFA Executive Committee to take up the Super League vice-president role.

The ECA is a body representing the interests of over 200 professional football clubs in UEFA. It is the sole such body recognised by UEFA, and has member clubs in each UEFA member association.

 

[GB72]

How would European football work for everyone else. Cannot see a market for a Champions League where the representatives are those in places 7-11 in the League (yes, I know that the breakaway clubs are not guaranteed to finish top 6 but using and extreme example), and as for the Europa League, you could end up with clubs knocked out in the quarter finals of the cups being in Europe or, if the european places are removed from the cups, you could see not only the end of any attraction for domestic cup competitions but also a situation where finishing 15th in the Premier League still qualifies you for Europe.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How would European football work for everyone else. Cannot see a market for a Champions League where the representatives are those in places 7-11 in the League (yes, I know that the breakaway clubs are not guaranteed to finish top 6 but using and extreme example), and as for the Europa League, you could end up with clubs knocked out in the quarter finals of the cups being in Europe or, if the european places are removed from the cups, you could see not only the end of any attraction for domestic cup competitions but also a situation where finishing 15th in the Premier League still qualifies you for Europe.

Lots of decent points and points that will need a lot of work.

But in all honesty, I don’t care, I just hope what if left behind looks after themselves and the problems are sorted, Football was in place long before PL/UEFA/FIFA etc came along and I’m sure it can survive this, what certainly don’t want is the “Big 6” getting their own way because the rest are scared to take action or not bold enough to stick together.

 

[fundy]

Leicester into 20/1 to win the prem league on betfair this season