The Footie Thread

[Slime]

Just seen the Arsenal red card.
Very harsh, but I'm glad he got a red.
Absolutely no attempt to play the ball, just a cynical bringing down of a player.
He didn't care where the ball was, that was an irrelevance as he knew he wouldn't get it, he merely wanted to cancel Wolves' chances of a counter attack.
I hate that, I'm glad he got a red card, albeit I think that was the wrong decision.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm with @Slime in that I'm okay with that type of challenge getting a red. No attempt to play the ball, it's entirely cynical and it can lead to injury. The problem is the decision came from nowhere, it won't be replicated. If an edict had been put out about those challenges, fine but on its own it stands out.

 

[AmandaJR]

Agree with both points above. Didn't we have a time where cynical (aka professional - bizarre) fouls were red carded or did I imagine that?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Agree with both points above. Didn't we have a time where cynical (aka professional - bizarre) fouls were red carded or did I imagine that?

I think they have always tended to be on 'through on goal' moments, although I'm happy to accept I'm wrong. I don't remember anyone getting one so far up in the opposition half. I don't see that it should matter. A cynical foul is a cynical foul

 

[Tashyboy]

I'm with @Slime in that I'm okay with that type of challenge getting a red. No attempt to play the ball, it's entirely cynical and it can lead to injury. The problem is the decision came from nowhere, it won't be replicated. If an edict had been put out about those challenges, fine but on its own it stands out.

From my perspective, Fernandinho and Rodri, plus others have been doing it for years. The calls for a sending off have been deafening. It has happened and now the crap has hit the fans. My only problem with this type of referees decision is that is a one off. It won’t happen again. Once more the inconsistency is killing the game. If it had been Rodri, am sure we would be hearing “ he has had that coming for years”. If that sending off happened on a regular basis, fine. But it won’t. What it has highlighted is rammel referees again.

 

[HampshireHog]

Just seen the Arsenal red card.
Very harsh, but I'm glad he got a red.
Absolutely no attempt to play the ball, just a cynical bringing down of a player.
He didn't care where the ball was, that was an irrelevance as he knew he wouldn't get it, he merely wanted to cancel Wolves' chances of a counter attack.
I hate that, I'm glad he got a red card, albeit I think that was the wrong decision.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I'm with @Slime in that I'm okay with that type of challenge getting a red. No attempt to play the ball, it's entirely cynical and it can lead to injury. The problem is the decision came from nowhere, it won't be replicated. If an edict had been put out about those challenges, fine but on its own it stands out.

By the letter of the law it’s not a red

But agree with the points that it’s cynical and no attempt at all to play the ball

I suspect they will get the ban overturned

 

[BrianM]

By the letter of the law it’s not a red

But agree with the points that it’s cynical and no attempt at all to play the ball

I suspect they will get the ban overturned

Myles Lewis-Skelly red card: PGMOL says tackle that earned Arsenal defender red card at Wolves was high and late

Arsenal still expected to appeal Myles Lewis-Skellys red card in 1-0 win over Wolves on Saturday; Michael Oliver under scrutiny after widely-condemned decision to hand out straight red card for foul on Matt Doherty

www.skysports.com

Maybe not....

 

[BrianM]

Spurs, Spurs, Spurs

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Myles Lewis-Skelly red card: PGMOL says tackle that earned Arsenal defender red card at Wolves was high and late

Arsenal still expected to appeal Myles Lewis-Skellys red card in 1-0 win over Wolves on Saturday; Michael Oliver under scrutiny after widely-condemned decision to hand out straight red card for foul on Matt Doherty

www.skysports.com

Maybe not....

Interesting that they deem that the tackle was high ?

Wonder what the PGMOL thinks of thw Encsio tackle on Endo

 

[Bazz]

Leicester have lost 7 in a row and have just gone above us. The sooner we're down and can rebuild the better, hopefully with new owners.

 

[Voyager EMH]

I can't talk, but I can type while holding my breath.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Exhale......

3 points.

Hoo-bloomin'-ray!

 

[AmandaJR]

Spurs - Ange has got to go surely.

 

[clubchamp98]

Just seen the Arsenal red card.
Very harsh, but I'm glad he got a red.
Absolutely no attempt to play the ball, just a cynical bringing down of a player.
He didn't care where the ball was, that was an irrelevance as he knew he wouldn't get it, he merely wanted to cancel Wolves' chances of a counter attack.
I hate that, I'm glad he got a red card, albeit I think that was the wrong decision.

I totally agree.
Unprofessional fouls need stamping out of the game.!
I think it was the right decision.

 

[clubchamp98]

Interesting that they deem that the tackle was high ?

Wonder what the PGMOL thinks of thw Encsio tackle on Endo

That was high but he was trying to get the ball.
Gunners one was not for the ball.

 

[AmandaJR]

I totally agree.
Unprofessional fouls need stamping out of the game.!
I think it was the right decision.

I'd agree except currently it's not usually a red card offence. If it were, great. It should be. I think he can feel hard done by.

It certainly wasn't high. Above boot height just but not a studs up vicious challenge. I think they got it wrong under the current way the game is reffed week in week out.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

That was high but he was trying to get the ball.
Gunners one was not for the ball.

Going for the ball doesn’t excuse a foot being high

It’s was a cynical trip by the Arsenal player but it’s a not a red card offence

 

[clubchamp98]

I'd agree except currently it's not usually a red card offence. If it were, great. It should be. I think he can feel hard done by.

It certainly wasn't high. Above boot height just but not a studs up vicious challenge. I think they got it wrong under the current way the game is reffed week in week out.

If you pull his shirt ,grab hold of him like most break up play.
But hacking someone down with studs right on his ankle is a different thing imo.

They should have a bit more respect for fellow pros and not do that.

Remember Son ( not that type of player ) breaking Everton’s Gomes ankle with a hack like that.
I think Oliver was correct.

 

[clubchamp98]

Going for the ball doesn’t excuse a foot being high

It’s was a cynical trip by the Arsenal player but it’s a not a red card offence

Not excusing it but at least he was trying to play the ball.