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clubchamp98 said:
Does make me laugh when you see what the two lads who were sent off for not making a tackle ,and Eddersons tackle today was a yellow.
The rules are in need of a change imo.
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I did not see the game live and was following it on BBC live, basically txt reporting. As soon as I saw ederson booked, I thought that’s gonna look interesting because he don’t do normal. When I saw his second tackle I thought yup. Deffo yellow, in fact it looked like Fernandinho has taught him to tackle. Deffo yellow But the two from the night before were shockers.

But again who makes these rules re a straight red for trying avoid a tackle?
 
Tashyboy said:
I did not see the game live and was following it on BBC live, basically txt reporting. As soon as I saw ederson booked, I thought that’s gonna look interesting because he don’t do normal. When I saw his second tackle I thought yup. Deffo yellow, in fact it looked like Fernandinho has taught him to tackle. Deffo yellow But the two from the night before were shockers.

But again who makes these rules re a straight red for trying avoid a tackle?
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That’s why the word “Intent” is not in the rules, how easy would it be to defend a player by saying it was an accident or he never meant it, when in reality, they know if they can’t reach the ball they could “accidentally” touch an opponent and not mean to foul them. So we crucify forwards when they obviously dive, but want to stick up for a defender when they cause a player to fall over. How do we prove which one is telling the truth.

Plus, it’s only a red card when denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, any other scenario it would be yellow at most.
 
Tashyboy said:
But again who makes these rules re a straight red for trying avoid a tackle?
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Well it's not that. If they red card him they're saying he wasn't trying to win the ball, but was deliberately holding the player back or trying to prevent him getting to the ball. The ones we saw the other day were very dubious in this respect, but that's what they've judged.

I thought Martial dived yet the defender got a red. Must be the least contact there has ever been in history to receive a red card.
 
Orikoru said:
Well it's not that. If they red card him they're saying he wasn't trying to win the ball, but was deliberately holding the player back or trying to prevent him getting to the ball. The ones we saw the other day were very dubious in this respect, but that's what they've judged.

I thought Martial dived yet the defender got a red. Must be the least contact there has ever been in history to receive a red card.
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Sad thing for me was.
What sort of player dives when he is clean through on goal and his team are already 5/6-0 in the lead.
Probably knowing the defender will get a red.
That’s where VAR should do it’s job but won’t go against a referee.
It was a clear and obvious mistake by the ref imo.
 
Orikoru said:
Well it's not that. If they red card him they're saying he wasn't trying to win the ball, but was deliberately holding the player back or trying to prevent him getting to the ball. The ones we saw the other day were very dubious in this respect, but that's what they've judged.

I thought Martial dived yet the defender got a red. Must be the least contact there has ever been in history to receive a red card.
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"Trying to not make a tackle" is one of the oldest tricks in the defenders' repertoire. Usually accompanied by the hands in the air surrender position.

"Look ref I never touched him!"

An attacker running at speed into the box may only need a slight contact on his foot or ankle, a small clip with a knee or whatever to lose his balance and thus his effort on goal.

It's been going on for years and usually the defender gets away with it.

Hence the outrage when one of them gets caught. Luiz has been in the game a long time, he knew what he was doing.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Sad thing for me was.
What sort of player dives when he is clean through on goal and his team are already 5/6-0 in the lead.
Probably knowing the defender will get a red.
That’s where VAR should do it’s job but won’t go against a referee.
It was a clear and obvious mistake by the ref imo.
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He took a heavy touch and the ball was going through to the keeper which is why he dived. That's also another reason it shouldn't have been a red! Not denying a goalscoring opportunity as he never would have got there.
 
MetalMickie said:
"Trying to not make a tackle" is one of the oldest tricks in the defenders' repertoire. Usually accompanied by the hands in the air surrender position.

"Look ref I never touched him!"

An attacker running at speed into the box may only need a slight contact on his foot or ankle, a small clip with a knee or whatever to lose his balance and thus his effort on goal.

It's been going on for years and usually the defender gets away with it.

Hence the outrage when one of them gets caught. Luiz has been in the game a long time, he knew what he was doing.
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I don't have any sympathy for Luiz, he's known for being a clumsy idiot these days, and I only saw that incident once. I thought Bednarek's one was well harsh, not even a penalty for me.

On the subject of Bednarek, anyone have him in their fantasy team? He got -7 points! An own goal, a red card, and nine conceded. :ROFLMAO: Has to be the worst individual points score in the history of FPL.
 
My lad was saying the other day that when the guy was given a straight red for the “ non tackle/ tackle “ on Martial he should not of been sent of because of the triple whammy effect, being, sending off, penalty and a ban. If that’s the case is a non tackle exempt from the triple punishment or what is the actual ruling.?
 
Tashyboy said:
My lad was saying the other day that when the guy was given a straight red for the “ non tackle/ tackle “ on Martial he should not of been sent of because of the triple whammy effect, being, sending off, penalty and a ban. If that’s the case is a non tackle exempt from the triple punishment or what is the actual ruling.?
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That only applies if you were trying to win the ball - if it's a penalty you'll only get a yellow card. If they decide that you weren't trying to win the ball and you were just fouling him on purpose, then it's still a red card.
 
Orikoru said:
That only applies if you were trying to win the ball - if it's a penalty you'll only get a yellow card. If they decide that you weren't trying to win the ball and you were just fouling him on purpose, then it's still a red card.
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If that is the case he might as well of wiped him out bigstyle so Martial could of had a proper girlie scream and just got a yellow.
Bednarek is either a pudding or one of the most unlucky players to of get sent off.
 
Tashyboy said:
If that is the case he might as well of wiped him out bigstyle so Martial could of had a proper girlie scream and just got a yellow.
Bednarek is either a pudding or one of the most unlucky players to of get sent off.
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As I said already I didn't even think it was a penalty let alone a red card. Stupid decision. On the slow motion replay you can see Martial starts to dive, then as he falls next to Bednarek their legs brush together - and they've deemed that a deliberate foul and sent him off. Absolutely incredible that a referee can watch that footage and reach that conclusion.

Even the people who were most staunchly in favour of VAR and believed it would cut out poor decisions must be eating their words and feeling a bit silly by now. If anything it has simply highlighted the bad decisions with a bigger magnifying glass than ever before.
 
Orikoru said:
As I said already I didn't even think it was a penalty let alone a red card. Stupid decision. On the slow motion replay you can see Martial starts to dive, then as he falls next to Bednarek their legs brush together - and they've deemed that a deliberate foul and sent him off. Absolutely incredible that a referee can watch that footage and reach that conclusion.

Even the people who were most staunchly in favour of VAR and believed it would cut out poor decisions must be eating their words and feeling a bit silly by now. If anything it has simply highlighted the bad decisions with a bigger magnifying glass than ever before.
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Agree.
The more VAR is used the worse the decisions are getting.
 
Orikoru said:
As I said already I didn't even think it was a penalty let alone a red card. Stupid decision. On the slow motion replay you can see Martial starts to dive, then as he falls next to Bednarek their legs brush together - and they've deemed that a deliberate foul and sent him off. Absolutely incredible that a referee can watch that footage and reach that conclusion.

Even the people who were most staunchly in favour of VAR and believed it would cut out poor decisions must be eating their words and feeling a bit silly by now. If anything it has simply highlighted the bad decisions with a bigger magnifying glass than ever before.
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Disagree with your last paragraph, when was the last time a correct VAR decision caused outrage? Never, but I’d put money on it they’ve got more right than wrong.

Totally agree it’s got a long way to go, but the most controversial VAR decisions tend to be when players cheat, how about we get them to stop cheating and VAR would be used less.
 
pauldj42 said:
Disagree with your last paragraph, when was the last time a correct VAR decision caused outrage? Never, but I’d put money on it they’ve got more right than wrong.

Totally agree it’s got a long way to go, but the most controversial VAR decisions tend to be when players cheat, how about we get them to stop cheating and VAR would be used less.
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I didn't say they don't get any right. But people argued as if it would eradicate poor decisions. I think the number of good and bad decisions is roughly the same as it was before - VAR just takes longer. Or at best estimate there's only 5 or 10% more correct decisions - but it takes 300% of the time to get there.

Your last sentence - complete pie in the sky stuff.
 
Orikoru said:
I don't have any sympathy for Luiz, he's known for being a clumsy idiot these days, and I only saw that incident once. I thought Bednarek's one was well harsh, not even a penalty for me.

On the subject of Bednarek, anyone have him in their fantasy team? He got -7 points! An own goal, a red card, and nine conceded. :ROFLMAO: Has to be the worst individual points score in the history of FPL.
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Just be glad you didn’t triple captain him
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