fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Cracking commentary "Looks like he's settling in to this Everton team, doesn't score many goals....."
Swango1980
Well-known member
VAR are not in charge of showing replays in Sky TV. Sky TV choose to show replays, and what they wanna show
Swango1980
Well-known member
There you go club champ, Rashford's was a handball......
The farce of the rules of football
The farce of the rules of football
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes badly put by me.
That’s what I meant.
With all the criticisms of VAR recently are they trying to stop it by not showing contentious ones.?
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I can’t blame the ref but VAR have time and several angles and should not get it wrong.
Havnt seen the Rashford one!
Swango1980
Well-known member
And just to add to that farce, had Rashford squared to Bruno, and Bruno scored, then it would have been given as a goal.
Swango1980
Well-known member
He was running through, and Everton player smashed it into his chest. It grazed an arm, also in by his chest, and he went on and scored. Ref gave it, VAR ruled it out
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
Blatant penalty for Barca.
Slime
Tour Winner
Three hard earned and fully deserved points.
A great reaction after last week's hammering.
A great reaction after last week's hammering.
4LEX
Well-known member
Impressed with Man Utd tonight. Worst possible start but they didn't panic, just kept the ball, controlled the game and played Everton off the park. More impressive given how they've been really poor lately and big questions would've been asked if they'd lost.
theoneandonly
Blackballed
The rules for handball are interpreted differently depending on if it happens in the immediate build up to a goal or if it hits a defender during an attack.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Exactly, farcical. If you just saw a still of the ball hitting the hand, but no other indication as to where on the pitch, or whether it was attacking or defending team, or whether a goal was scored or not, you could not make a decision on hand ball. In many cases, the exact same handball incident would definitely NOT handball if it was a defending team, or attacking team if goal not scored. But, it becomes a handball if the player whose hand it brushed off scores.
Then you have the randomness at times as to when handball is given for a penalty.
Before VAR, I think it was a lot simpler. Sure, refs sometimes got it wrong or missed it, but we generally knew where we stood. Now they have multiple interpretations, basically written because of VAR. It allows them to play with their expensive toy, and justifies them employing the VAR refs, by frequently reviewing decisions. No onfield ref in a millions years would have disallowed Rashford's goal for handball, as defender smashed it into his torso from about half a yard. But now VAR can sit and look at super slow motions to see if it glanced off anywhere under the shirt sleeve.
I am pretty sure it will ge changed one day, but only when shame is brought on the game when a last second winning goal is ruled out in the FA Cup final or Champions League final. Something of great significance, ruined by pathetic rules
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes agree.
Still think the Liverpool one was a pen. He made himself bigger.
Rashford was a joke
Scamacca how come MOTD can see it and VAR can’t.? Still a goal imo.
Antonio =second phase
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Yes agree.
Still think the Liverpool one was a pen. He made himself bigger.
Antonio =second phase
Having seen the Liverpool one again....can only agree.
As for Antonio....the second phase wouldnt have been able to happen if the handball hadn't occurred in the first phase. Ridiculous to allow the goal. Basically....you can commit an offence in the build up to a goal as long as the goal isnt scored in the same phase of play as the offence takes place. Thats just daft.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Yes agree.
Still think the Liverpool one was a pen. He made himself bigger.
Rashford was a joke
Scamacca how come MOTD can see it and VAR can’t.? Still a goal imo.
Antonio =second phase
Chris Kavanagh and VAR have had an absolute mare there. It is a complete joke and the inconsistency in the VAR decisions beggars belief.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Yes agree.
Still think the Liverpool one was a pen. He made himself bigger.
Rashford was a joke
Scamacca how come MOTD can see it and VAR can’t.? Still a goal imo.
Antonio =second phase
Lol I've just seen Antonio's goal. My stream went and I just saw the goal before rather than the highlights
I've seen goals ruled out for nothing, how on earth thats stood
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Entertaining weekend in the prem!
What on earth has happened to Liverpool though?! Not even half the team they were two years ago!
What on earth has happened to Liverpool though?! Not even half the team they were two years ago!
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Deleted member 15344
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Finally got round to watching it or the highlights
First half - Arsenal flew out of the blocks , great pass from Odegaard and nice finish
Liverpool then got back into it and got control , clear penalty for the handball , no doubt about that , stunned it wasn’t given , just look at the penalty that was given against Burn the day before , then we good goal from Nunez only for them to get undone by a quick break and poor defending
Second half - good start to score the equaliser but then Arsenal were far better for the half - their penalty , not in a million years , embarrassing and VAR for the second time shocking that they didn’t overrule or ask the ref to go to the screen , we should have cleared the ball but it’s a poor decision
We may have just deserved a point but Arsenal played well in lots of periods - Saka and Martinelli are superb
First half - Arsenal flew out of the blocks , great pass from Odegaard and nice finish
Liverpool then got back into it and got control , clear penalty for the handball , no doubt about that , stunned it wasn’t given , just look at the penalty that was given against Burn the day before , then we good goal from Nunez only for them to get undone by a quick break and poor defending
Second half - good start to score the equaliser but then Arsenal were far better for the half - their penalty , not in a million years , embarrassing and VAR for the second time shocking that they didn’t overrule or ask the ref to go to the screen , we should have cleared the ball but it’s a poor decision
We may have just deserved a point but Arsenal played well in lots of periods - Saka and Martinelli are superb
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Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
The bit that made me smile re the Liverpool non penalty for handball. Sky get to see all the angles before us. Not sure which commentator said “ oh I think that’s a penalty” when they waved play on there was stunned silence.Yes agree.
Still think the Liverpool one was a pen. He made himself bigger.
Rashford was a joke
Scamacca how come MOTD can see it and VAR can’t.? Still a goal imo.
Antonio =second phase
Ave said it before and I will say it again. VAR is ok as long as there is consistency. There isn’t. And it/ var/ referees are killing the game.
It’s Monday morning and we are not talking about Haaland breaking scoring records, Arsenals continued renaissance, Bruce being sacked, etc etc etc.
Swango1980
Well-known member
You mean when the Liverpool player kicked Jesus in the leg!?
I agree Liverpool could have had a penalty, and should have had a penalty based on other penalties that are given.
However, Arsenal looked much the better side. Even if Liverpool had a reasonable spell at one point, I can't see there is any way Liverpool deserved anything out of that game, they'd have been lucky Both Liverpool goals seemed to come from nowhere, whereas Arsenal seemed to be the more dangerous side during most of the game. Their goals were coming.
