The Footie Thread

[IanM]

well Ajax dont look much like a side that have been asset stripped this summer!!! Rangers barely had a kick so far

A gulf in class, as per last night with the green version.

Lots of fans does not a decent team make

 

[Rlburnside]

Potter would be better staying where he is, Chelsea sack managers even when they win trophys , and I can’t see them winning the league or champions league.

There will be a few managers sacked before Xmas, bide his time and wait for a decent club.

 

[Swango1980]

Potter would be better staying where he is, Chelsea sack managers even when they win trophys , and I can’t see them winning the league or champions league.

There will be a few managers sacked before Xmas, bide his time and wait for a decent club.

What decent club will have a manager vacancy before Xmas? In particular, a club that could win the league or Champions League?

 

[IanM]

Potter could set himself up financially for life by moving to Chelsea in the knowledge he'll be paid off within 2 years. He can then suit himself.

 

[Orikoru]

I really hope Potter doesn't go to Chelsea - I think if he just stays at Brighton until Christmas he's practically nailed on for the England job when we go out in the quarters and Southgate walks.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I really hope Potter doesn't go to Chelsea - I think if he just stays at Brighton until Christmas he's practically nailed on for the England job when we go out in the quarters and Southgate walks.

He deserves better than that job.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Potter will jump at the chance to manage Chelsea- it’s the next step up in his career , he will protect himself with a long contract and be given time

 

[Norrin Radd]

If I was Tony Bloom I would be offering Potter a ten million contract to cover the next four years. The way Brighton are going try could easily end up in a champions League spot in a year or two and that would more than cover the the mil.

 

[PJ87]

However, even if Chelsea ended up sacking him after a year or 2, he should still be in a great position to get other good job offers. I'm sure Tuchel will not struggle to find a club.

I'm trying to think of a manager who had struggled for decent job offers after being at a big club. Ole springs to mind, but he was a pretty unique case in that he didn't really have great credentials going into the job to start with. Potter has a lot of admirers. Chelsea would help put him even more in the shop window, and I think he would have to have an absolute monumental disaster to not get decent offers, if Chelsea let him go

Moyes was a fine example, did nothing short of a fantastic job with everton

Before he went to United I spoke to United fans I work with and Moyes was their first choice

I get following SAF is different but look how his career went after that

Didn't work after leaving us either , it's like if a club fits certain managers their better off building that club up than taking a bigger club

I mean whoever takes over chelsea has a wealth of talent they didn't pick

Say in January they want to sign something will the board back when they just spent 230 million

Seems mental

 

[Golfmmad]

Potter would be better staying where he is, Chelsea sack managers even when they win trophys , and I can’t see them winning the league or champions league.

There will be a few managers sacked before Xmas, bide his time and wait for a decent club.

I hope Potter turns Chelsea down. Why would he want to leave such a well run club with a fully supportive Chairman.

I don't think his future opportunities will be affected either. He doesn't need Chelsea.

The prospect of becoming the next England manager will be a much better move for him.

Here's hoping!

 

[JSims]

Yes, but the problem is, one of those 2 people are handicapped. The OFR has only seen the incident from where he was standing, in real time. He has not had the benefit of looking at multiple angles and replays. So, if VAR is suggesting something different to the original decision, the OFR can never be in a position to decide properly for himself until he sees what VAR is seeing.

In West Ham game, the OFR would have seen what most of us had seen. Mendy making a save, but no foul on Mendy, even if slight contact was made. However, VAR might have decided that Bowen had kicked out intentionally, thus a foul. The OFR would have to realise that the VAR is in a better position to make an assessment, and that he, the OFR, might have missed something in that instant. So, he needs to review it. However, once he does, the expectation and pressure is to reverse that decision.

I understand all that! The issue with VAR there was that VAR's 'decision' to send OFR to review - based on the VAR 'rules' - was wrong - and possibly/probably wrong in fact. The OFR might have seen the contact and decided it was not a foul (slow motion always exaggerates contact, even if there's no simulation). But being directed to review adds pressure to overturn, under current rules. My view is that OFRs should be under no pressure to overturn - simply to re-assess, though I would expect some or even most to be overturned from the 2nd look. I personally don't consider the keeper was fouled - certainly not critically as the ball had gone out of his recoverable reach, though there was contact. But that's only my opinion and I'm not a qualified football ref.

 

[Rlburnside]

What decent club will have a manager vacancy before Xmas? In particular, a club that could win the league or Champions League?[/

Man United have not been convincing yet even with that win against Arsenal and I can’t see them finishing top four which won’t be good enough so there might be a job there. ?

Other than money what insentive would he have to go there? he would get paid plenty whatever club he would move to

Seeing Tuchel sacked so soon after winning 3 trophys won’t be a good move for him

 

[clubchamp98]

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Totally disagree with that. Every manager that comes to Chelsea or any other club knows what they're getting into. They all have massive egos and they all want to prove they're up to the job and better than their predecessors. They get paid very, very handsomely and a massive payoff when they are sacked. Hardly being treated like ***

I was talking in football terms ,he won three trophies and got sacked for just three losses this season.
The money is irrelevant to them.

Or is it something else off the field that would not surprise me.

 

[Rlburnside]

I hope Potter turns Chelsea down. Why would he want to leave such a well run club with a fully supportive Chairman.

I don't think his future opportunities will be affected either. He doesn't need Chelsea.

The prospect of becoming the next England manager will be a much better move for him.

Here's hoping!

I agree Chris why would he take a step down?

 

[IanM]

Why would he leave?

Money? Career progression?

But he might turn them down.

 

[JSims]

Would be interested to know how Chelsea fans feel, as they'll be a lot more clued in with the club and what they think of Tuchel

Fans of most recent club would be way down my list of those to ask! And they'll be biased by the lack of recent results that triggered the sacking.

 

[Yorkhacker]

I agree Chris why would he take a step down?

Well Conte, Mourinho and Villas-Boas all did, when they went to Spurs ?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Its tough for Potter, historically Chelsea have been a managers graveyard. One could say the same with Utd since Fergie. If he does a good job with Chelsea it could open other doors on the continent and the England job in the future.

Premier League clubs with the most managers as of 26th October 2021;

https://firstsportz.com/football-top-5-football-clubs-with-most-managers-in-premier-league-history/

5: Newcastle United.
4: West Bromwich Albion.
3: Chelsea.
2: Aston Villa.
1: Tottenham Hotspur

The odd team out on that list would appear to be the "manager's graveyard" as the only serial trophy winner. Hardly ended a lot of those manager's careers either.

 

[JSims]

The problem I see for the incoming Chelsea manager is that the style of football has already been, to a large extent, decided - by Tuchel and his purchases. So the role is, until Christmas, a case of either applying that style and moulding those players he can to optimise performance that the manager might not fully believe is best! It's more of a coaching role, or at least the coaching aspect takes a higher profile role.
It could easily be a poisoned chalice!
Oh! And it seemed a daft decision by the owner, after the huge expenditure, unless there was more behind it than just results.

 

[pokerjoke]

The problem I see for the incoming Chelsea manager is that the style of football has already been, to a large extent, decided - by Tuchel and his purchases. So the role is, until Christmas, a case of either applying that style and moulding those players he can to optimise performance that the manager might not fully believe is best! It's more of a coaching role, or at least the coaching aspect takes a higher profile role.
It could easily be a poisoned chalice!
Oh! And it seemed a daft decision by the owner, after the huge expenditure, unless there was more behind it than just results.

Maybe the way he acts had something to do with it as well.
Perhaps they are looking for a manager who just wants to manage,not that comes with all the antics.