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Remarkable that Italy have gone from European champions to not qualifying for the World Cup. To lose at home as well.......

That's a heck of a swing in emotions.

It’s the second World Cup on the spin that Italy are not playing in. The stats re Italys shots are astounding. Love to know what the thought process is behind playing the game in Palermo. It’s like England playing in Rochdale. ?
 
32!shots against 4 and North Macedonia scored in the 92nd minute.

Think Palermo stadium from memory is a tad bigger than Spotland Tashy my man. It was when I was there when they had just been promoted in 2004. Like you I have lived in Rochdale but it was not by choice.

Trust you are keeping well young man
 
32!shots against 4 and North Macedonia scored in the 92nd minute.

Think Palermo stadium from memory is a tad bigger than Spotland Tashy my man. It was when I was there when they had just been promoted in 2004. Like you I have lived in Rochdale but it was not by choice.

Trust you are keeping well young man

?? Born there, I never realised at the time, but when we emigrated from Rochdale to Mansfield in 1970 it was one of my happier days. Still go back twice a year to Bury market for me provisions. Alls well and interesting at the moment. ??
 
The plastic Italian from West London posted a video of him singing (shouting) "Italia-italia" seconds after we lost the euros to them in our work WhatsApp group..

I love how WhatsApp saves all these things

"See you in Qatar ☺️"
 
We are an awfully dull watch. We spend almost as much time going backwards as we do forwards, and it just makes for terribly frustrating viewing.
Well, Southgate has decided to play 5 at the back, at home against Switzerland. With Henderson protecting them in front. If Southgate managed City or Liverpool, they too would be awful to watch
 
Well, Southgate has decided to play 5 at the back, at home against Switzerland. With Henderson protecting them in front. If Southgate managed City or Liverpool, they too would be awful to watch

He would never be given the chance to manage either - he is a hugely defensive manager, proven and won nothing at any level as a manager
 
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He would never be given the chance to manage either - he is a hugely defensive manager and proven and won nothing at any level as a manager

The same discussion was raised during the Euros, Phil. And I agree.

Southgate has a wealth of young attacking talent at his disposal, possibly the most for a generation, and his negativity stifles it. It’s an absolute crying shame.

A top manager’s eyes would light up if given the likes of Grealish, Saka, Mount, Foden and Gallagher to work with.
 
The same discussion was raised during the Euros, Phil. And I agree.

Southgate has a wealth of young attacking talent at his disposal, possibly the most for a generation, and his negativity stifles it. It’s an absolute crying shame.

A top manager’s eyes would light up if given the likes of Grealish, Saka, Mount, Foden and Gallagher to work with.

I disagree. Got us to a major final and the semi finals of a WC. We should have been more astute against Croatia to mange the game better but he learned from that. Again we could have taken chances against Italy and won the tournament. Qualified with ease and he has a way of getting results. Its a results business especially to ensure qualification (Italy!!!) and I feel there will be times when the attacking talent will be allowed to express themselves more but we are also liable to concede so a balancing act
 
I disagree. Got us to a major final and the semi finals of a WC. We should have been more astute against Croatia to mange the game better but he learned from that. Again we could have taken chances against Italy and won the tournament. Qualified with ease and he has a way of getting results. Its a results business especially to ensure qualification (Italy!!!) and I feel there will be times when the attacking talent will be allowed to express themselves more but we are also liable to concede so a balancing act

Got us to a final which, having gone 1-0 up early on, we should have won. Alas, with 7 defensive minded players in front of Pickford, we instead tried to sit on that lead for over 80 minutes, dropping deeper and deeper in the process. The outcome was inevitable and Southgate’s negativity was laid bare for the footballing world to see.

We might have got to that final, but the game summed Southgate up as a manager. Too frightened to lose to grasp a once in a lifetime opportunity.
 
I disagree. Got us to a major final and the semi finals of a WC. We should have been more astute against Croatia to mange the game better but he learned from that. Again we could have taken chances against Italy and won the tournament. Qualified with ease and he has a way of getting results. Its a results business especially to ensure qualification (Italy!!!) and I feel there will be times when the attacking talent will be allowed to express themselves more but we are also liable to concede so a balancing act


Italy the world beaters we tried to shut up shop against when there for the taking dont even make the world cup, thats how big an open goal we missed in the Euros. Instead of going for the kill at 1-0 he tried to sit on it and let them back in the game :( Have no doubt it will be the same if we get deep in the world cup too sadly :( Southgate is a safe pair of hands that wont go out in the group games and will play the penalties roulette in the KO stages if needed, sadly talent wise this is as good a squad as weve had in a very long time when a lot of the other so called major nations are lacking, personally think we'll regret the wasted opportunities of his tenure not celebrate the near misses in years to come
 
Italy the world beaters we tried to shut up shop against when there for the taking dont even make the world cup, thats how big an open goal we missed in the Euros. Instead of going for the kill at 1-0 he tried to sit on it and let them back in the game :( Have no doubt it will be the same if we get deep in the world cup too sadly :( Southgate is a safe pair of hands that wont go out in the group games and will play the penalties roulette in the KO stages if needed, sadly talent wise this is as good a squad as weve had in a very long time when a lot of the other so called major nations are lacking, personally think we'll regret the wasted opportunities of his tenure not celebrate the near misses in years to come

Absolutely spot on.
 
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