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VAR has explained why Mane was not sent off.

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VAR's explanation to Sky was that it was "reckless, not violent".
I am lost for words.
Violence means intent. So, are VAR now saying reckless and dangerous is acceptable, as long as it is not violent? The officials just make things up as they go along.
 
Should have been a red for Mane. I think had that been 5-10 minutes in rather than the first few seconds it would have definitely be reviewed and given, Great result for City and I can't see anything other than them winning the PL from here
I don‘t understand similar comments to this Homer. If it is a foul after 6 seconds OR 60 minutes it IS a foul. Why the leeway? Same with a first tcckle. There is no difference and no 2nd chance

A foul is a foul is a foul and I am not just referring to today. You more knowledgeable gents on here please explain they get a 2nd chance or what about a 3rd.
 
I don‘t understand similar comments to this Homer. If it is a foul after 6 seconds OR 60 minutes it IS a foul. Why the leeway? Same with a first tcckle. There is no difference and no 2nd chance

A foul is a foul is a foul and I am not just referring to today. You more knowledgeable gents on here please explain they get a 2nd chance or what about a 3rd.

I agree totally. A foul, and certainly one of the nature of Mane's is a foul (and worthy of a red card) whenever it happens. I just feel that six seconds in most referees will shy away from showing red and I don't think VAR would want to get involved. Perhaps there is an element of not wanting to spoil the contest so early on and to me that is the officials not doing their job effectively. I think had that been as little of five minutes in then the decision may have been different. Not condoning it. Just seems how referees seem to manage the games now
 
I assume if any player who gets a red card just before jetting off to the African Nations would not need to worry about being suspended for the following games? If so, they could pretty much get away with a nasty challenge at the end of the game
 
I assume if any player who gets a red card just before jetting off to the African Nations would not need to worry about being suspended for the following games? If so, they could pretty much get away with a nasty challenge at the end of the game

Good job Roy Keane wasn't African :ROFLMAO:;)
 
I assume if any player who gets a red card just before jetting off to the African Nations would not need to worry about being suspended for the following games? If so, they could pretty much get away with a nasty challenge at the end of the game

Surely you’re not suggesting anything are you ?
 
I assume if any player who gets a red card just before jetting off to the African Nations would not need to worry about being suspended for the following games? If so, they could pretty much get away with a nasty challenge at the end of the game

I don't even know how it works .. I doubt he would do on purpose but if a player is unavailable due to international duties surely the ban would carry over
 
Surely you’re not suggesting anything are you ?
Not suggesting anything, if you think I am referring to Mane. It would be idiotic to put in a reckless challenge after 6 seconds of a game, his team would be punished by being down to 10 men for virtually all the game.

It was just a general thought. Entering the last few mins of a bad tempered game. Maybe the result is already decided. A player, about to play in African Nations sees the red mist. They really could be as violent as they like, knowing their suspension means nothing (if it covers the games they'd miss anyway). Unless there is a condition that the suspension doesn't run while a player is officially away on international duty
 
I don‘t understand similar comments to this Homer. If it is a foul after 6 seconds OR 60 minutes it IS a foul. Why the leeway? Same with a first tcckle. There is no difference and no 2nd chance

A foul is a foul is a foul and I am not just referring to today. You more knowledgeable gents on here please explain they get a 2nd chance or what about a 3rd.
A ref once told me players are usually given a little leeway with tackles in the first ten mins while they properly warm up and get the speed of the game.
You often hear “ the sub is not up to speed yet” when someone comes on.
How true this is , is anyones guess.
But the Mane foul was dangerous.
I would also say Mount should have gone as well ! You can’t kick out at players on the ground like that!
 
Mane red card ???????

It was just about a foul. No intent to elbow the man, jumping for the ball, Azpilcueta should be booked for simulation.....

James milner needs shafting good and proper. He's let the team down by giving the ref the oppurtunity to give a cheap freekick even though the ball has long gone, good dive from Havertz though. Poor.

Kovacic wont hit a luckier shot in another 100 times.

Great equaliser though.
 
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