Swing feedback

[SHiiBBZ]

Hi all.

Posted my swing a few months ago. Been playing golf since July. Playing off 28. But hit a 107 the other day on a Par 68 (before handicap). Really feel as if I'm improving - been having lessons but still coming over the top. Does anyone have any feedback as to how I can get on a more shallow plane?

Love golf. Literally obsessed now haha

[video=youtube_share;ccBs0BJrvL8]http://youtu.be/ccBs0BJrvL8[/video]

http://youtu.be/ccBs0BJrvL8

Cheers in advance

 

[DaveL]

Have a look at some of the Mark Crossfields videos, one of which at the top of the back swing let the club drop, not your hands and whip it through. Cant post the link as I'm at work, but it's in there somewhere.

 

[bobmac]

If you can film your swing when you hit a ball that would be better.
Pretty good practice swing though

 

[Foxholer]

Why do you want to have a shallower plane?

Swing looks better than a 28-capper btw. Though you do seem to be set up squatting a bit with hands a bit low. Grip seems a little strong right/weak left too, but it's hard to tell in a vid.

Your coach is the guy to listen to - and ask why and how - though!

Oh. And there's something missing!

 

[Oddsocks]

I'd swap the back swing for mine today!

 

[Maninblack4612]

The knees should be flexed, not bent. You should feel like you are standing at the edge of a cliff, looking over the side, not swatting down, about to sit on a bar stool. This would make you stand taller & the shoulders would turn in a flatter plane. Agree with previous poster, this doesn't look like a 28 handicap swing.

 

[SHiiBBZ]

The knees should be flexed, not bent. You should feel like you are standing at the edge of a cliff, looking over the side, not swatting down, about to sit on a bar stool. This would make you stand taller & the shoulders would turn in a flatter plane. Agree with previous poster, this doesn't look like a 28 handicap swing.

Thanks all for feedback. Will definitely work on standing posture. Flattered that my swing looks better than a 28 er. Only been playing since July so my lessons have obviously paid off! I've only just started calculating my handicap on Golf Shake so hopefully it goes down nice and quickly!

I slice my driver horrendously so hopefully a more up right posture will improve that.

 

[turkish]

Thanks all for feedback. Will definitely work on standing posture. Flattered that my swing looks better than a 28 er. Only been playing since July so my lessons have obviously paid off! I've only just started calculating my handicap on Golf Shake so hopefully it goes down nice and quickly!

I slice my driver horrendously so hopefully a more up right posture will improve that.

Hi SHiiBBZ welcome to the 28 club

could maybe try this drill it helped me with the slice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziKwS6Dve0M

Also when I am setting up my alignment instead of having shoulders and toes in line to target I will align slightly closed with shoulders and toes aiming slightly right to target but club face still aiming to target (as if trying to hit a draw)

Both have helped me a lot and very rarely slice the ball- the odd fade but usually straight.

 

[the_coach]

bunch of good things going on - so keep up the lessons.

would need to see slow-mo dtl + face on but with swings through a ball.

looking at your practice swing here & looking at alignment to what looks like probably the target line re the club face angle you need to take real note of how you align your shoulder line in relation to target line - shoulders + hips, feet should be all parallel left of your target line.

direction of the shoulder line in general has big overall influence on swing path. shoulder line here is looking like it's aimed left - so shoulders open which will tend to encourage an out to in swing path which will then also be a little ways steep.

make sure your shoulders are square to target line, make your backswing then 'feel' that your back stays looking to target momentarily as your hands/arms/club unit 'drop vertically' fractionally, then you turn through the ball to finish.

lots of good things going on - so with the lessons - would expect you not to be on 28 too long. & winter break good time to put the work in.

 

[SHiiBBZ]

Hi all,

Been working hard on my swing the past month. Still look like I'm coming over the top, but getting better connection with the ball and distance is not really an issue. Hitting 140 with a 7i.

I've tried to change my posture and my grip and I feel a bit more comfortable now. Be interesting if you guys see any differences and if you have any further feedback (spent far too much money on lessons and clubs the past six months! )

[video=youtube_share;9q7fuQ4gv-o]http://youtu.be/9q7fuQ4gv-o[/video]

 

[Region3]

No expert, but...



You look to move to your left on your backswing to me. The yellow line up the centre of your torso should be tilted away from the target. This can cause you to become steep and swing across the line (or at least that's what it was doing to me).

Stance looks a little narrow.

If the mats aren't flush with their surroundings, I wouldn't imagine it's any good for your balance to be perched on the edge of them (I'm guessing it was to make room for the camera?)

 

[SHiiBBZ]

No expert, but...

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You look to move to your left on your backswing to me. The yellow line up the centre of your torso should be tilted away from the target. This can cause you to become steep and swing across the line (or at least that's what it was doing to me).

Stance looks a little narrow.

If the mats aren't flush with their surroundings, I wouldn't imagine it's any good for your balance to be perched on the edge of them (I'm guessing it was to make room for the camera?)

Thanks for that. I never stand that narrow, not quite sure why I did that time - I assume it was because I was perched on the edge to fit me in! No surprise I hit that off the heel!

I'm trying not to move on backswing - that's a recent problem for me as I never used to do it. Do you know of any drills to get rid of this? Thanks for feedback regardless

 

[Region3]

I don't know any drills, sorry. My problem started at setup so was a fairly easy change to make.

The feeling you want is that your left shoulder turns behind the ball at the top of your backswing, but without your weight shifting to the outside of your right foot.

 

[the_coach]

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posture a little ways better. couple of things worth looking at, stance maybes just a tad narrow. very little room between the hands & thighs {you'd want to be able to place your right hand in a fist between the left on the handle & your thigh) part of the reason for the heel strike as when you come down there's no real room for the hands/arms to swing through, so the reflex action is to stand up into impact but then everything moves towards the ball, so what was middle at address is heel side at impact.
also if you check your shoulder alignment it's a little ways open to your target line. double check when you line the club square you're using the bottom leading edge & the grooves as reference not the top line.

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fraid this grip is still going to fight against you some. right hand a little ways too much in the palm & under the club so strong v pointing to end of right shoulder not the middle. also the thumb down the shaft so the forefinger & thumb can't form the trigger will make it stronger still. the left looks like it may be a little ways too high in the palm but also it's in a 'weak' position- looking down you'll only just about 1 knuckle.
would be better in the long run if you can get to an overlap vardon grip.

you have a decent notion of an athletic swing motion, if you can get the statics, grip, alignment-shoulders square, tad more width to help with balance & a tad more room between thighs & left hand/top of handle. will put you in a much better position to swing.

when your shoulder turn stops that's when your arms stop, weight into inside of right foot, feel like your only swinging to hands shoulder high & at that point feel they're away from your head, should help to stop the overswing & spine tilt towards target. from there weight left swing down & through.
start with this motion at only 60% effort you'll be better able to feel what you're working to, then when you get repeated solid contact gently increase it to 70%, then finally 80% if it starts to break down go back to the easier swing speed & build again.

 

[the_coach]

so more this being the top of swing position, weight into inside right foot.

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rather than this below, where the arms have carried on & lifted up some so the elbow flying away & the upper body leaning towards target some.

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[the_coach]

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not the exact framing on both, but the same white specs picked out in blue so you can see the effect of how the hips/pelvic angle has straightened up so moved towards the ball to allow the club to get to impact. (frame capture rate doesn't give impact itself) partly due to set-up partly due to swing path, AoA etc.

 

[SHiiBBZ]

Coach - thank you for taking so much time out of your day to analyse my swing. I really appreciate your feedback - I'll get to work straight away sir! :lol:

 

[SHiiBBZ]

Coach - thank you for taking so much time out of your day to analyse my swing. I really appreciate your feedback - I'll get to work straight away sir! :lol:

That reminds me - I'm struggling with the whole shoulders/target line thing. How do I need to set myself up? I find that when I'm standing at the ball my right hand is lower down so naturally that brings my shoulder down. What can I do to get that kinda straight and how can I assure my shoulders are aligned correctly to the target line?

 

[Region3]

That reminds me - I'm struggling with the whole shoulders/target line thing. How do I need to set myself up? I find that when I'm standing at the ball my right hand is lower down so naturally that brings my shoulder down. What can I do to get that kinda straight and how can I assure my shoulders are aligned correctly to the target line?

Your right shoulder should be lower than your left. That's what gives you the slight spine tilt away from the target. You want to keep that tilt until impact.

Because the right hand sits lower on the grip than the left, the only other way to reach is to move your right shoulder towards the ball, which is wrong as it then means your shoulders are aiming left.

To check your alignment, take your address position then hold a club across your chest like the pic below, and the club will show you where your shoulders are pointing.

 

[Doh]

Again not an expert don't worry about the right shoulder being lower it's a result of the grip and is a good position to be in. I find the best way to line my shoulders is to firstly line up my feet, you can use a club lie it on the ground towards you target and stand up to it. I then find it easy to line my shoulders up to my feet.