Swing Advice Please?

[Region3]

I've been wondering whether or not to do this, but I finally thought "what's the worst that can happen", so...

The following is a link to a youtube video :


My Swing x 3

There are 12 swings there. The first 4 are not thinking about anything, the second and third sets of 4 are thinking about 2 different things while I'm swinging.

I know it would be better to be hitting a ball but there isn't room enough at the range. I honestly think it's a good representation of how I hit.

Anyway, I'd appreciate constructive comments from anyone more qualified than I (a 25m swimming certificate should do it!) on what looks like it most needs work, and also if any of the 3 sets look better than others, or if they all look the same!

Thanks.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I got my 25m certificate so as such here goes..... the one major thing I can see here is the right leg tends to straighten and so there isn't any significant weight transfer or coil as you swing back. I'm sure others may disagree or see other things (always the way when you put a video up - trust me!). On the plus side there seems to be a decent tempo and a good acceleration.

As a thought, it often helps to try and get a video of an actual shot as there is a big difference between swinging relaxed in the garden and what sometimes happens over a ball.

 

[Region3]

Thanks Homer. This is the thing about other people seeing your swing... they see things you haven't.

That was (right leg) actually one of the things I knew was bad and have tried to work on, and thought I'd sorted it. I hadn't even looked for it on this video! I've obviously slipped back into the bad ways.

I'll try to get a vid from the range, but the only angle I'll be able to get is from the rear of the bay.

 

[Mattie]

Well im not expert... but I noticed on some of your swings that your hips are coming through first and on other swings they arent.

I noticed a big difference with my swing when my hips started the downswing as opposed to letting the arms fall

Mattie

 

[Region3]

My 'thought' on the last 4 is to get the hips turning quicker, are they the ones?

I know it's important, but I'm unsure if my normal swing clears the hips quick enough or not.

I'm going to concentrate on keeping the flex in my right leg to start with, then see how I'm hitting the ball from there.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think that is why its important to film it hitting a ball so you can see it in real time and see how everything hangs together through a committed shot. I'm the last person to talk about timing issues and what starts the downswing as my transition between completed backswing (too long) and downswing (too quick) needs complicated mathematical formulae to calculate its speed and I know I have the right moving parts but can't guarantee the correct order.

 

[Pants]

Although I used to swim for the county many years ago, Lord knows I'm not an expert on golf swings but I have actually taken notice of many posts on this forum.

As a result, I haven't looked at your swing as I'm not qualified to comment but my advice would be .. Go and see a PRO, someone who really knows what they are talking about and can actually watch you hitting golf balls and give you correct advice.

I have said before, I came on this forum to get tips and help in improving my game and while I am happy to consider all views from well meaning people, I am far more likely to be influenced by comments made by some of the low handicappers and professionals (Hi Bob) than those who know everything and continually complain about the state of their game.

Sorry. For a moment I thought I was in the Ask The Experts section.

Rant over. I'll get my coat....

 

[Mattie]

lol
Definitely go see a pro as Pants says

Ive got my first lesson on Friday woo hoo but I think consistency is definitely the key.

What do you think is wrong with your swing? Are you getting lots of slices and hooks?

Mattie

 

[Pants]

I'm the last person to talk about timing issues and what starts the downswing as my transition between completed backswing (too long) and downswing (too quick) needs complicated mathematical formulae to calculate its speed and I know I have the right moving parts but can't guarantee the correct order.

Sorry. I'll read that again.

OK. Re-read it. And you are giving advice??

 

[Region3]

I saw a pro, and the main advice was to work on keeping my legs 'quieter'.

I'm shocked at myself for not noticing on the video that I was doing it again (although not as bad as before), so that is my focus for the foreseeable future.

I'll worry about anything else after I think I've grooved that enough to not need to think about it.

 

[bobmac]

If I can suggest something that might be a bit easier.
Instead of making your legs quieter, think of your hips turning in a smaller area and not sliding from side to side
Think of feeling the weight on the INSIDE of your left foot at the end of your swing (for right handers)

 

[Region3]

Thanks Bob, I'll give it a try

 

[sawtooth]

I am not an expert but I would say too much head movement. The head comes up when you complete your backswing. I dont know how best to rectify that but I know that your head should not be displaced like that. You could try lifting your head slightly at address?

 

[RGDave]

It's not a bad swing is it. I've freezed it and there are lots of good things.
Would have preferred it with a ball, obviously.

Clearly, you've got to fix the end of the turn to the top (head!) and I bet you slice it when it goes wrong.
Try to keep your right leg more flexed (this itself might calm the "lifting" to the top) and watch out for your lateral movement. You move away from the ball and your head follows, (I do this) but then you don't recover much of that on the way down. Pre-impact it's getting back to address, but there's no real drive forward - if you were (laterally) moving towards the target then your impact would be more solid. Although you transfer to the left leg on the finish, the weight looks a bit stranded (everything behind the ball). I'd bet you are very good with woods but a bit thin and non-divoty with short irons. Then again, as you've swung a big club, who's to say.....you might swing differently with a wedge in hand.

I'm impressed overall, a few tweaks from a Pro and you'll be flying....

Nice.

 

[Region3]

It's not a bad swing is it. I've freezed it and there are lots of good things.
Would have preferred it with a ball, obviously.

Clearly, you've got to fix the end of the turn to the top (head!) and I bet you slice it when it goes wrong.
Try to keep your right leg more flexed (this itself might calm the "lifting" to the top) and watch out for your lateral movement. You move away from the ball and your head follows, (I do this) but then you don't recover much of that on the way down. Pre-impact it's getting back to address, but there's no real drive forward - if you were (laterally) moving towards the target then your impact would be more solid. Although you transfer to the left leg on the finish, the weight looks a bit stranded (everything behind the ball). I'd bet you are very good with woods but a bit thin and non-divoty with short irons. Then again, as you've swung a big club, who's to say.....you might swing differently with a wedge in hand.

I'm impressed overall, a few tweaks from a Pro and you'll be flying....

Nice.

You're right Dave, my bad shot (with the long clubs) is a push/slice, big enough to go oob right when aiming down the left!
What made you say that?

I used to have what I thought was a lot of lateral movement on my downswing, which I thought was the cause of the slice so have tried to curb it. Are you saying there should be some, or that there shouldn't be if I fix the movement away from the ball on my backswing?

I try to keep behind the ball with my driver because when I was fitted, my 'angle of attack' was negative ie. hitting down on it, and was told I should hit it on the up. Maybe there is a better way to achieve it than what I'm doing.

I don't do the same (I think) with my irons. I occasionally thin them, but most of my bad shots with short irons are fat, and normally I take at least a little divot.

Thanks also for the kind comments. I really do feel that there's a very good score in me trying to get out, but the occasional sliced drive and fat wedge put paid to it most times I play well.

Thanks for going into such detail, I love getting technical, probably too much for my own good

I'll see if I can get someone to video me next time I play, with driver and an iron.

Thanks also sawtooth, I think everyone's seeing the same fault, which must be good.

 

[JustOne]

It's easy to swing well when there's no ball

I take it those swings were with your driver?

 

[Smiffy]

It's easy to swing well when there's no ball

I play off scratch without a ball.

 

[bobmac]

It's easy to swing well when there's no ball

I play off scratch without a ball.

How would you know when you hit the wrong ball???

 

[Region3]

Finally vid of hitting balls

I finally managed today to get some video of me at the range hitting balls.

There are 2.. From behind the line which is a bit dark because of pointing at the sky,

and.. Facing me which has cut my head off because I guessed wrong how far to tilt it, but that's no bad thing some might say

They are both just hitting a few balls with a 4 iron.

 

[bobmac]

Re: Finally vid of hitting balls

The swing looks very confident and flowing.
One thing I would look at is your aim. Are your feet pointing the same direction as your shoulders