Orikoru's Swing Thread (with videos)

[rulie]

But he's working on it.

"Working towards" - can't get there without this.

Yes, that's true. And I find that the best place to start is with solid basics - something I can go back to when things go amiss and my play goes sideways!

 

[bobmac]

Most of the things you've listed are influenced by body alignment, body and club movements. A proper starting position enhances positions through the swing itself.
Obviously, the ball doesn't care, but the player cares where the ball goes!

While I agree good fundamentals help, the impact conditions are more important than the starting position

 

[VVega]

the impact conditions are more important

While totally agree (and all your advice above is spot on), I do have a question.

While impact is most important we can not control the club head at 100mph+ to a mm precision. So all we are left to do is to try to start from a good setup position and have some degree of intention of what we are trying to achieve at impact.

So it’s all about translating the desired impact conditions into setup/intentions? Would you agree?

 

[bobmac]

So it’s all about translating the desired impact conditions into setup/intentions? Would you agree?

Definitely.
And as many have found out it's extremely difficult to change the swingpath. The only/easy/fastest way to create a neutral swing path at impact is to change the aim. Together with a clubface square to the path, the ball must go straight.
I'd say a good transition is key to a good impact. Get the transition wrong and you're in trouble.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Definitely.
And as many have found out it's extremely difficult to change the swingpath. The only/easy/fastest way to create a neutral swing path at impact is to change the aim. Together with a clubface square to the path, the ball must go straight.
I'd say a good transition is key to a good impact. Get the transition wrong and you're in trouble.

What would be your keys to a good transition

 

[bobmac]

What would be your keys to a good transition

Too many to list but this is one of my favourites...

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Too many to list but this is one of my favourites...

I get that but as I am not anything like that what can I actually focus on

 

[Neilds]

From my (very basic) point of view, I would say a smooth transition is key. Trying to force the start of the down swing and being too aggressive is a killer.

 

[bobmac]

I get that but as I am not anything like that what can I actually focus on

It is what it is and there's little you can do to change it.
The best and quickest way to change your downswing is to change your aim and as Neilds says a smooth transition is important....a bit like a child's garden swing

 

[SocketRocket]

You get the club steep in the downswing that creates an out to in swing. It may need a fair bit of work but to improve you need to work on either a more rounded swing back and through or shallow the club in the downswing. If that seems difficult then as suggested try to keep the fade as controlled as possible.

 

[GreiginFife]

You get the club steep in the downswing that creates an out to in swing. It may need a fair bit of work but to improve you need to work on either a more rounded swing back and through or shallow the club in the downswing. If that seems difficult then as suggested try to keep the fade as controlled as possible.

This is exactly how I addressed my high natural fade issue. Wider on the takeaway gives me more room to be a little off on the downswing with better results.

Just got my mate to start doing this and his driving is miles better than it was. He just needs to keep remembering and working at it to ingrain it.

 

[PJ87]

This is exactly how I addressed my high natural fade issue. Wider on the takeaway gives me more room to be a little off on the downswing with better results.

Just got my mate to start doing this and his driving is miles better than it was. He just needs to keep remembering and working at it to ingrain it.

I watched my low handicap PP do it for a while so just started doing it..since I slowed down the back swing with a wider take aswell my driving has improved. For example yesterday I hit 14 drives .. all in play. May have just rolled into the first cut but no drives cost me shots. Just was the other shots that did

 

[Orikoru]

This is exactly how I addressed my high natural fade issue. Wider on the takeaway gives me more room to be a little off on the downswing with better results.

Just got my mate to start doing this and his driving is miles better than it was. He just needs to keep remembering and working at it to ingrain it.

I struggle with 'width' or 'depth' but I'm swinging well at the minute while just (a) trying to keep the right elbow in and (b) trying to stop the backswing when it feels like it's stretched out behind me, rather than folded up around my head. If that makes any sense at all. That and just dropping the right foot back an inch, which is keeping my back to target a bit more and resulting in a solid fade rather than wipey slice.

 

[Springveldt]

Feet flared out instead of square to the line. Club "over the line" at top of backswing instead of down the line. Right elbow not tucked close enough to body.

Even TPI are recommending guys flare their feet out, I've seen Greg Rose get multiple people to do it. It helps with pressure transfer and weight. Having the feet square makes it much harder to rotate.

 

[Orikoru]

Even TPI are recommending guys flare their feet out, I've seen Greg Rose get multiple people to do it. It helps with pressure transfer and weight. Having the feet square makes it much harder to rotate.

Exactly that. I flare my left foot on everything other than driver, it means I can feel the flex in my knee better which helps me get weight forward.

With driver though I actually do the opposite now, I drop the right foot back a touch and flare that out - staying a bit closed seems to help my swing path no end.