Orikoru's Swing Thread (with videos)

[RichA]

Elbows are much more tucked in than before.
Have you tried really slowing it down and exaggerating the positions when you're practicing? Like turning until your back is towards your line, left shoulder is under your chin, elbows are in, wrists are flexed but flat - then hold it for a couple of seconds before you start your downswing.
You won't do it on the course but you can start training your brain to trust a proper turn.

 

[Orikoru]

Elbows are much more tucked in than before.
Have you tried really slowing it down and exaggerating the positions when you're practicing? Like turning until your back is towards your line, left shoulder is under your chin, elbows are in, wrists are flexed but flat - then hold it for a couple of seconds before you start your downswing.
You won't do it on the course but you can start training your brain to trust a proper turn.

I do try that at the start of a session to rehearse what I want to do, yeah. It just doesn't seem to have any bearing when I go back to full speed and my body does what it wants. Long process. Good thing with the videos is I can see evidence of changes and it gives you the motivation to keep working on it. Last year was pretty much a total waste of time, practicing what I thought I was doing and wasn't actually doing at all.

 

[RichA]

Your posture looks way more sporty and flexible than it did last year on the vids.
As long as you keep your eyes on the ball then if you can just convince yourself that it's ok to turn properly and trust that your brain and body will make the necessary adjustments you'll be hitting it much further.
Have you tried with driver the putting technique where you absolutely force yourself to keep looking at the patch of grass where the ball was, even a couple of seconds after you've hit it?

 

[Orikoru]

Your posture looks way more sporty and flexible than it did last year on the vids.
As long as you keep your eyes on the ball then if you can just convince yourself that it's ok to turn properly and trust that your brain and body will make the necessary adjustments you'll be hitting it much further.
Have you tried with driver the putting technique where you absolutely force yourself to keep looking at the patch of grass where the ball was, even a couple of seconds after you've hit it?

I think part of this is where my head's currently at as well - at the moment I'm just wanting to strike the ball cleanly and keep it in the course again, and I'm not worrying too much about distance. I don't want to bite off more than I can chew, so if I can get a bit of consistency of strike this year, then next winter maybe think about making the bigger turn and get more distance. I think when I try turn more at the moment, I find it hard to do that without my left elbow bending more, my right elbow flying out, the left wrist cupping - all the bad stuff I've been trying to get rid of. I know it's just a case of turning the body rather than the arms, but it's a hard one for me to get and I want to kick it down the road for a bit to be honest.

I think I can play some decent golf with this swing this year, if I stay disciplined on that backswing and remember to get my weight to lead side.

 

[Depreston]

Just catching up with this thread big fan of swing journeys and it’s mad the changes you made from short backswing to long ha!

Easy wins are setup changes so this might be one to think about and one I’ve implemented with some success

Crossfield and jd academy with gears .. the first setup change with the elbow pit

Mike Porzak giving blood move

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you might do them already but if not it will help with the elbows together feel for sure

 

[Orikoru]

Just catching up with this thread big fan of swing journeys and it’s mad the changes you made from short backswing to long ha!

Easy wins are setup changes so this might be one to think about and one I’ve implemented with some success

Crossfield and jd academy with gears .. the first setup change with the elbow pit

Mike Porzak giving blood move

View this content on Instagram

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you might do them already but if not it will help with the elbows together feel for sure

You're telling me... I had that very short backswing for a good three or four years I would say. Now I find it physically impossible to swing that short and I have no idea how I did it. I think it's all in the wrists though, I never used to really hinge my wrists at all, then after the lesson a year ago, I got a much better stance and posture, but ended up breaking my wrists too much I guess, along with the 'flying elbow'. Have been hitting driver much better during this month though, and mostly better scores coming along with it.

I will watch those this evening, and check if it's in line with what I'm doing. Cheers

 

[Orikoru]

@Depreston Just put the Crossfield video on and realised I've already watched it. That is a feel I've been trying to get, yes. Feeling that the right forearm is a little lower than left and turned in at set-up does help keep the elbow in for sure.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Just come with me to the dark side and fully adopt the Eureka swing!!!!

 

[garyinderry]

Just come with me to the dark side and fully adopt the Eureka swing!!!!

Is your new swing much flatter like Steve Johnstone?

I can remember old swings of yours which were like that. Suited you far better.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Is your new swing much flatter like Steve Johnstone?

I can remember old swings of yours which were like that. Suited you far better.

Yes in as much as I have to take it back very flat but there is then scope to be a bit steeper on the way down (I was always over the top) but with Eureka and listening to Steve Johnstone's videos that isn't such a bad thing as long as the hips are clearing and a degree of tilt in there. It must be a fair attempt to recreate his Eureka swing with the handicap tumbling!

 

[Orikoru]

Just come with me to the dark side and fully adopt the Eureka swing!!!!

Haha. You'll recall me trying it last summer, and it definitely helped me to understand what I should be doing. Ultimately I stopped opening my stance as it was not helping me with driver (kept swinging along my feet line and cutting across the ball) - but I still flare out my left foot a little bit as it helps me turn and get my weight across - and that is something I got from Eureka. It also gave me a better understanding of where my takeaway should be going, picturing that top cane.

Playing well this year so far, which is why I've not added any new vids lately. Just focusing on keep the right elbow in, and keeping the club low on takeaway.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Haha. You'll recall me trying it last summer, and it definitely helped me to understand what I should be doing. Ultimately I stopped opening my stance as it was not helping me with driver (kept swinging along my feet line and cutting across the ball) - but I still flare out my left foot a little bit as it helps me turn and get my weight across - and that is something I got from Eureka. It also gave me a better understanding of where my takeaway should be going, picturing that top cane.

Playing well this year so far, which is why I've not added any new vids lately. Just focusing on keep the right elbow in, and keeping the club low on takeaway.

I found moving the driver back in the stance a tad further than a standard swing has helped alot and promoted a nice draw. Something Steve Johnstone covers in one of the videos with the driver

 

[Orikoru]

I found moving the driver back in the stance a tad further than a standard swing has helped alot and promoted a nice draw. Something Steve Johnstone covers in one of the videos with the driver

Yeah I'm doing that as well anyway, if I have it right up by my left heel, my clubhead is already going left by the time I get there, so I have it a ball width further back than that.

 

[sjw]

Just had this thread pop up in the "Similar threads" section.

Just one little thing I noticed when watching the down-the-line videos with driver. Between your practice swing and your actual, your feet move a lot more than the club head does. Ie, you are closer to the ball in your real swing than you would have been in your practice... does this make sense?

If you're standing too close to the ball, it's going to make your swing steeper, and make it much harder to come from the inside. In my head, you're also more likely to make contact out of the heel. (You also look like you're set up to hit out of the heel - it might look centre to you, but have a look at the attached). Can you see where you're striking the ball on the face? It might be that you're making some other correction that's counteracting this. I've tried to hit out of the toe consciously before as I struggle with heel strikes sometimes and it is VERY difficult to change a habit.

I'm no good with swing analysis etc and haven't ever really looked in detail at my own swing; I can't talk about amount of turn, arm angles etc. I can only look at total basic things and try and use logic. I know I had some minor success when just giving myself a tiny bit more room to swing around rather than up-and-down. I'm only talking an inch or two.

No doubt someone will be along to tell me shortly that this is total rubbish, but maybe something to experiment with?

Cheers

 

[Orikoru]

Just had this thread pop up in the "Similar threads" section.

Just one little thing I noticed when watching the down-the-line videos with driver. Between your practice swing and your actual, your feet move a lot more than the club head does. Ie, you are closer to the ball in your real swing than you would have been in your practice... does this make sense?

If you're standing too close to the ball, it's going to make your swing steeper, and make it much harder to come from the inside. In my head, you're also more likely to make contact out of the heel. (You also look like you're set up to hit out of the heel - it might look centre to you, but have a look at the attached). Can you see where you're striking the ball on the face? It might be that you're making some other correction that's counteracting this. I've tried to hit out of the toe consciously before as I struggle with heel strikes sometimes and it is VERY difficult to change a habit.

I'm no good with swing analysis etc and haven't ever really looked in detail at my own swing; I can't talk about amount of turn, arm angles etc. I can only look at total basic things and try and use logic. I know I had some minor success when just giving myself a tiny bit more room to swing around rather than up-and-down. I'm only talking an inch or two.

No doubt someone will be along to tell me shortly that this is total rubbish, but maybe something to experiment with?

Cheers

Just on the bold bit - that must be the angle of the camera, because I actually set up to the toe of the driver, not the heel or even the middle.

I used to hunch over and be too far from the ball, so maybe I'm over-conscious of that at the moment? Not sure.

 

[sjw]

Took me a little bit but yes, I see what you mean, my bad