rulie
Head Pro
Yes, that's true. And I find that the best place to start is with solid basics - something I can go back to when things go amiss and my play goes sideways!
Orikoru's Swing Thread (with videos)
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bobmac
Major Champion
While I agree good fundamentals help, the impact conditions are more important than the starting position
VVega
Assistant Pro
While totally agree (and all your advice above is spot on), I do have a question.
While impact is most important we can not control the club head at 100mph+ to a mm precision. So all we are left to do is to try to start from a good setup position and have some degree of intention of what we are trying to achieve at impact.
So it’s all about translating the desired impact conditions into setup/intentions? Would you agree?
bobmac
Major Champion
Definitely.
And as many have found out it's extremely difficult to change the swingpath. The only/easy/fastest way to create a neutral swing path at impact is to change the aim. Together with a clubface square to the path, the ball must go straight.
I'd say a good transition is key to a good impact. Get the transition wrong and you're in trouble.
What would be your keys to a good transition
bobmac
Major Champion
I get that but as I am not anything like that what can I actually focus on
Neilds
Assistant Pro
From my (very basic) point of view, I would say a smooth transition is key. Trying to force the start of the down swing and being too aggressive is a killer.
bobmac
Major Champion
It is what it is and there's little you can do to change it.
The best and quickest way to change your downswing is to change your aim and as Neilds says a smooth transition is important....a bit like a child's garden swing
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You get the club steep in the downswing that creates an out to in swing. It may need a fair bit of work but to improve you need to work on either a more rounded swing back and through or shallow the club in the downswing. If that seems difficult then as suggested try to keep the fade as controlled as possible.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
This is exactly how I addressed my high natural fade issue. Wider on the takeaway gives me more room to be a little off on the downswing with better results.
Just got my mate to start doing this and his driving is miles better than it was. He just needs to keep remembering and working at it to ingrain it.
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I watched my low handicap PP do it for a while so just started doing it..since I slowed down the back swing with a wider take aswell my driving has improved. For example yesterday I hit 14 drives .. all in play. May have just rolled into the first cut but no drives cost me shots. Just was the other shots that did
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I struggle with 'width' or 'depth' but I'm swinging well at the minute while just (a) trying to keep the right elbow in and (b) trying to stop the backswing when it feels like it's stretched out behind me, rather than folded up around my head. If that makes any sense at all. That and just dropping the right foot back an inch, which is keeping my back to target a bit more and resulting in a solid fade rather than wipey slice.
Springveldt
Well-known member
Even TPI are recommending guys flare their feet out, I've seen Greg Rose get multiple people to do it. It helps with pressure transfer and weight. Having the feet square makes it much harder to rotate.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Exactly that. I flare my left foot on everything other than driver, it means I can feel the flex in my knee better which helps me get weight forward.
With driver though I actually do the opposite now, I drop the right foot back a touch and flare that out - staying a bit closed seems to help my swing path no end.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Another weekend of being beaten up by golf. I've now become the classic golfer who stripes it on the range, but under pressure out on the course, my backswing just becomes too long again and my strike becomes awful. Seemingly nothing I can do about it. Got three matches coming up in the next two weekends, so this week I'm going to try really exaggerating a 'short swing' but doing half-swings and three-quarter swings. I might even hit 50 balls with all half-swings, it probably can't hurt as a bit of a reset.
Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants.
Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants.
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Probably just hitting them at the range with no real focus. Do you select a target for each shot ?Another weekend of being beaten up by golf. I've now become the classic golfer who stripes it on the range, but under pressure out on the course, my backswing just becomes too long again and my strike becomes awful. Seemingly nothing I can do about it. Got three matches coming up in the next two weekends, so this week I'm going to try really exaggerating a 'short swing' but doing half-swings and three-quarter swings. I might even hit 50 balls with all half-swings, it probably can't hurt as a bit of a reset.
Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well yeah, I'm usually playing a virtual course on the Trackman so I have to play a particular shot.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
When I was younger and used to practice, I would start by hitting 6-iron shots with half a swing.Another weekend of being beaten up by golf. I've now become the classic golfer who stripes it on the range, but under pressure out on the course, my backswing just becomes too long again and my strike becomes awful. Seemingly nothing I can do about it. Got three matches coming up in the next two weekends, so this week I'm going to try really exaggerating a 'short swing' but doing half-swings and three-quarter swings. I might even hit 50 balls with all half-swings, it probably can't hurt as a bit of a reset.
Why is it so hard to stake your driving range swing to the course? As soon as there's a bit of jeopardy on it, the swing relapses to doing whatever it wants.
I was not bothered how far they went. I was concerned about centre of clubface and a straight shot.
Once that part of my swing was "in-the-groove", I found it easy to move on to 3/4 swings and then full swings.
On the course, in particular the first few holes, there was, and is, for me option of a 1/2 to 3/4 swing from the fairway and run the ball onto the green. Sometimes a good choice.
I have always thought that the shorter swing achieves less chance of waywardness. Judging the distance is key. But I've hit plenty of such shots so I have confidence.
The majority disagrees with me and say that they are more comfortable hitting "a full shot".
I am also comfortable hitting a full shot.
I have the addition of being comfortable hitting a shorter shot with the same club.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Probably part of my problem, this. I am one of those people - I can do a full swing, and I can do a half swing with my wedges and 9 iron, for the 50, 60, 70, 80 yard distances. But I can't really do a three-quarter shot, I can't seem to get the tempo right and I'll duff it. And if I want to shorten my swing, which I do, I kind of need to get used to that feel of swing less than a 'full shot' (but hoping that that becomes my 'full shot' if you know what I mean).
There's a feller my sort of age at my club who plays off about 6 and he has that really short Rahm-like backswing, then just rips through the ball. Hits everything so straight doing that. I'm jealous every time I watch him hit.
