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There is one important fact, or question, that hardly ever seems to comes up in discussion about golf stuff.
Where is the factory makes it and who owns that factory?
My reply came across a bit harshly, it wasn't meant to be. My point was, the modern clothing market is predominantly served by cheap Chinese factories. They are nameless and faceless but it is the same across most fields in terms of clothing. Golf is not on its own in relying on those factories. I don't like it, in fact I think it is both wrong and sad, but it is what it is right now. Imagine an ethical sports brand? It would be interesting if someone tried that.

If the head of Nike, Adidas, Callaway, Taylormade etc ever head hunt me and put me in charge, one of my first actions will be to bring production back over to Europe / America, wherever. Sadly, I don't think I am likely to get that call ☹️
 

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My reply came across a bit harshly, it wasn't meant to be. My point was, the modern clothing market is predominantly served by cheap Chinese factories. They are nameless and faceless but it is the same across most fields in terms of clothing. Golf is not on its own in relying on those factories. I don't like it, in fact I think it is both wrong and sad, but it is what it is right now. Imagine an ethical sports brand? It would be interesting if someone tried that.

If the head of Nike, Adidas, Callaway, Taylormade etc ever head hunt me and put me in charge, one of my first actions will be to bring production back over to Europe / America, wherever. Sadly, I don't think I am likely to get that call ☹️
I would like to see this expressed by more people and perhaps more harshly as well.
 
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I would like to see this expressed by more people and perhaps more harshly as well.


The issue will always be costs and the drive for profits by these company’s

Clothing across many sports etc is manufactured outside the UK/US etc with China being a main area - because the labour is cheaper , that’s the same with cars , tellys , phones , pcs etc etc

It’s built where it’s cheaper to be built

If people want to see them being built or made in your home country etc then they need to be willing to pay the added costs for that
 

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Doesn’t matter where it’s made,cheap labour abroad doesn’t mean cheaper prices to us.
Look at Ralph Lauren for example.
Absolutely. It is purely about profit, nothing to do with keeping costs low for customers.

I'm not picking on TW here but imagine if he launched this range and it was all manufactured in Alabama, S. Carolina, Ohio, basically anywhere in the US. The Americans would love it more, I'm sure and it would be great PR. They would still make enough money, he isn't exactly on his uppers anyway.
 
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Unfortunately, we are not given that option. Rarely anyway.

There will be brands etc out there that have a bit more morals but not very many because they know it will eat into their profits

Or could just buy Kjus who are in Switzerland I believe

It’s very hard prob near on impossible to not wear or use an item that’s been manufactured in Asia
 

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There is a company with a factory in Leicester that manufactures and exports cycling clothing. It is a solely British company.
Can't post a link, because that would be advertising, sorry.
 

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There is a company with a factory in Leicester that manufactures and exports cycling clothing. It is a solely British company.
Can't post a link, because that would be advertising, sorry.
You can name them, we name companies on here all of the time. Naming them for this is not advertising as such. It would be good to hear about British companies mfr here.
 
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There is a company with a factory in Leicester that manufactures and exports cycling clothing. It is a solely British company.
Can't post a link, because that would be advertising, sorry.
Do they make the fabric?
 
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Majority of my Galvin Green polos are made in Portugal, however I also have some that are made in Korea. Unsure if Korea would be “little kids in sweatshops” but I can’t imagine they set up manufacturing there for ethical reasons.
 
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Is it just me who couldn't give a toss where my clothes are made? It doesn't affect me one iota.

Guess it will always come down to a moral question and if you are happy with the working conditions of the people that make the clothes or items you wear or use
 

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You can name them, we name companies on here all of the time. Naming them for this is not advertising as such. It would be good to hear about British companies mfr here.
Velobici.

That's the French and the Italian word for "bike" stuck together. Probably helped with European marketing. It is expensive stuff, or seems so to me, but high-quality.
 

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Guess it will always come down to a moral question and if you are happy with the working conditions of the people that make the clothes or items you wear or use
Are you seriously saying when you are buying any form of clothing, but golf clothing for argument sake you are standing there questioning the morality of the working conditions of the people who made it????? You admitted historically to having lots of golf clothing so I assume you have come to terms with the question
 
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