Summer Transfer Thread

[Deleted member 18588]

Let's be honest - we had the same conversation last summer in regards - Lallana , Lovren , Shaw etc - and they all left

And when a club stumps up the money then Clyne , Fonte , Scnederlin Pelle etc will leave because they will go to clubs that will advance their career

Playing for those clubs improves the chances of Inty football , it gives them chances to play with and against better players , improves their wage and exposure

If and IMO when the fee is accepted then Clynne will sign terms with Liverpool IMO because it's a step forward

Sorry but IMO I cannot see how Clyne would be advancing his career by joining Liverpool unless you are measuring purely by salary.

He is already an England international and IMO would be no more likely to win any medals at Liverpool, at least not while Rodgers remains in charge.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Was always bought as a back up and that's what he ended up - he knew that when he signed

You seriously think that the current England C/F (which he was at the time) would sign somewhere he was only going to be the 2nd choice?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You seriously think that the current England C/F (which he was at the time) would sign somewhere he was only going to be the 2nd choice?

Yes Gordon - it was his chance to go to his boyhood club - did he really think he would be a starter with players like Sterling , Sturridge and Suarez at the club - he even said that he knew he was joining based on he wouldn't be a guarantee starter in his first interview on the website.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry but IMO I cannot see how Clyne would be advancing his career by joining Liverpool unless you are measuring purely by salary.

He is already an England international and IMO would be no more likely to win any medals at Liverpool, at least not while Rodgers remains in charge.

Regardless of people's feelings in terms of Liverpool - it is one of the biggest clubs in Europe so a move there from clubs like Soton is a step forward in their career

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Yes Gordon - it was his chance to go to his boyhood club - did he really think he would be a starter with players like Sterling , Sturridge and Suarez at the club - he even said that he knew he was joining based on he wouldn't be a guarantee starter in his first interview on the website.

It was a well known fact that Suarez was going (or already gone?) so he went thinking he would be a regular starter. He had just come off the back of his best ever season and had established himself as an international. Boyhood club or not, why would he give that all up if he thought he was going to be 2nd or 3rd choice?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Regardless of people's feelings in terms of Liverpool - it is one of the biggest clubs in Europe so a move there from clubs like Soton is a step forward in their career

But not in the Champions League, no realistic chance of winning the Premier League, very unlikely to crack the top four so not that different to where he is at present.

If, as expected, Man U come calling then it might make sense for Clyne to move. After all it is hard to see hoe Lallana or Lovren have improved their careers by making the move.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Regardless of people's feelings in terms of Liverpool - it is one of the biggest clubs in Europe so a move there from clubs like Soton is a step forward in their career

No mate....it might be a step forward in bank balance but sitting on the bench every week is NOT a step forward.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It was a well known fact that Suarez was going (or already gone?) so he went thinking he would be a regular starter. He had just come off the back of his best ever season and had established himself as an international. Boyhood club or not, why would he give that all up if he thought he was going to be 2nd or 3rd choice?

Wasn't a well known fact at all as Lambert signed very early - before even the start of the WC and even then when Suarez was going we were looking to sign a striker

He himself said he knew he wouldn't be a starter - he went to have a crack at player at his boyhood club - he even turned down the chance to leave in Jan to stay even though he wasn't getting regular first team football

He knew he was going from starter at Southampton to squad player.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But not in the Champions League, no realistic chance of winning the Premier League, very unlikely to crack the top four so not that different to where he is at present.

If, as expected, Man U come calling then it might make sense for Clyne to move. After all it is hard to see hoe Lallana or Lovren have improved their careers by making the move.

Again regardless of what you belief is of Liverpool - good to see the season hasn't even started and we have been written off already. Both Lallana and Lovren this season played for one of the biggest clubs in Europe if not the World bet neither regrets their moves and both improved on where they were before.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No mate....it might be a step forward in bank balance but sitting on the bench every week is NOT a step forward.

And that's Lambert who we have already discussed to death over the whole 12 months.

Lovren , Lallana , Shaw all moved forward in their career this season

 

[SaintHacker]

Let's be honest - we had the same conversation last summer in regards - Lallana , Lovren , Shaw etc - and they all left

And when a club stumps up the money then Clyne , Fonte , Scnederlin Pelle etc will leave because they will go to clubs that will advance their career

Playing for those clubs improves the chances of Inty football , it gives them chances to play with and against better players , improves their wage and exposure

If and IMO when the fee is accepted then Clynne will sign terms with Liverpool IMO because it's a step forward

Improves their careers? How has that worked for Lallana, LOLvren and lambert? And Shaw, and lets not forget Calum Chambers, who are both busy pulling splinters out of their backsides. I know you're as Liverpool through and through as I am Southampton Phil but you do post some tripe at times!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

And that's Lambert who we have already discussed to death over the whole 12 months.

Lovren , Lallana , Shaw all moved forward in their career this season

Lovren?!?!? He's had a mare

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Improves their careers? How has that worked for Lallana, LOLvren and lambert? And Shaw, and lets not forget Calum Chambers, who are both busy pulling splinters out of their backsides. I know you're as Liverpool through and through as I am Southampton Phil but you do post some tripe at times!

So have their careers gone backwards then ?

Did they join clubs that ended up "behind" Southampton this season ? - did they all play in the top comp in European Football ( bar Shaw )

As much as we have had a disappointing season we still ended up ahead of Southampton - something I believe some Saints fans said wouldn't happen.

So how have their careers not moved forward then ?

 

[SaintHacker]

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Lovren?!?!? He's had a mare

Thankfully he was signed on a longer contract than just one year - certainly seen enough from him to suggest he will have a better second season

 

[SaintHacker]

So have their careers gone backwards then ?

Did they join clubs that ended up "behind" Southampton this season ? - did they all play in the top comp in European Football ( bar Shaw )

As much as we have had a disappointing season we still ended up ahead of Southampton - something I believe some Saints fans said wouldn't happen.

So how have their careers not moved forward then ?

Because they all said 'we're leaving to go to a CL club.' Well, I suppose you could argue Shaw and Chambers did it...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Because they all said 'we're leaving to go to a CL club.' Well, I suppose you could argue Shaw and Chambers did it...

They did play in the CL :thup:

 

[Deleted member 18588]

They did play in the CL :thup:

Which they could have done by joining Celtic.

Still not progress though is it.

 

[SaintHacker]

Did being the operative word. You spent in excess of £200m and finished 2 points above us. 2 points. How is that an improvement? Also when you factor in the time they spent on the pitch compared to what they would have got had they stayed, where lets face it they were the first three names on the team sheet, I fail to see how any one can say they've gone onto to better things. I suppose their bank balances might be a bit fatter.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Thankfully he was signed on a longer contract than just one year - certainly seen enough from him to suggest he will have a better second season

Are you agreeing with me?