Summer Qualifying Comps - Stroke Play or Stableford?

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I recently played an inter club friendly, myself and my PP partner are 21 / 22 Hcp and our opponents were 8 and 25 hcp, we beat them them 7 and 5 which obviously did not go down well, as the 8 hcp started to complain about about our handicaps after the 5 hole because we were 7 over gross, we were playing well.

This continued all the way round and when we said that at our club all monthly meals, and other qualifiers are stroke play, to which he replies " thats why your hcp are so high you will never get them lower on stroke play, only on Stableford " Being new to the game I innocently suggested that the surely the correct format for golf has to be stroke play rather than Stableford, which just added fuel to the fire.

So my question is should I just put this down to trying to explain to themselves why they were beaten so comprehensively or is our club different by only having Stroke play comps in the summer?

Just to qualify my hcp, I played yesterday and scored 96 so I don't think I much better than my hcp
 
tell the guy to butt out and learn what he is talking about, and in future ignore anyone who says similar.

couple of facts, stableford IS strokeplay, and all handicap adjustments are made based on stableford scoring, even when you play a medal (the computer converts to stableford!)

ps well played, enjoy your win
 
fundy said:
tell the guy to butt out and learn what he is talking about, and in future ignore anyone who says similar.

couple of facts, stableford IS strokeplay, and all handicap adjustments are made based on stableford scoring, even when you play a medal (the computer converts to stableford!)

ps well played, enjoy your win
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I second this, well played
 
I agree can't see if you put in a full 18 hole stableford card it is any different to stroke play.

I believe this a common symptom of being a sore loser. We all have good days and bad days, fortunately for you, the pair of you had a good day.
 
Unless I'm mis-reading it, 7 over gross after 5 for a couple of 20hc's playing better ball isn't shooting the lights out.

Maybe should have suggested his handicap was too low? ;)
 
Region3 said:
Unless I'm mis-reading it, 7 over gross after 5 for a couple of 20hc's playing better ball isn't shooting the lights out.

Maybe should have suggested his handicap was too low? ;)
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Yep - and without knowing the course length and relationship between par and SSS any such observation is meaningless (let alone the irrelevance of the first 5 holes!)

By all means discuss handicaps in the bar afterwards but any such discussion before then is inherently ill based and frankly rude (imo)
 
duncan mackie said:
By all means discuss handicaps in the bar afterwards but any such discussion before then is inherently ill based and frankly rude (imo)
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Spot on. Nobody likes getting hammered by someone playing way better than their handicap, but I wouldn't dream of saying anything before the match is over, and knowing me probably wouldn't any anything full stop.
 
No one likes getting stuffed and it sounds like old fashioned sour grapes. I'd have shown him the handicap certificates and told him to get on with it. I've been on the back end of some real whoppings, but you have to hold your hand up and say the others player(s) were too good on the day
 
Region3 said:
Unless I'm mis-reading it, 7 over gross after 5 for a couple of 20hc's playing better ball isn't shooting the lights out.

Maybe should have suggested his handicap was too low? ;)
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That was my first thoughts too. Obvious his 25h/cap partner was struggling to. Just annoyed about being stuffed and throwing dodgy accusations about to offset the frustration of defeat.
 
Thanks for the feedback and information, only been playing a couple of years so still trying to learn whats right and wrong and the correct etiquette
 
Best to just get your maracas out and do a little folk dance on the green when you clinch the tie, always appreciated by sore losers I think
 
Playing like this happens.
Years ago I was playing a round of a National 4BBB with a mate off 20, I was off 9.
Front 9 he played like the 9 handicapper and I played like the 20..roles reverted to type on the back 9 but the game was already over...a few mutterings but we had handicap certificates to wave at them.
Well played..!
 
My and my buddy won 4BBB KO match yesterday 4/3. We are 10 and 18 hcap - they were 6 and 11. When my buddy stiffed his chip on 15 with a shot for a net 2 to win the hole and the match our opponents just rather glumly shrugged - that's golf.

On walk in they said they were 1 over gross better ball - but couldn't compete with us. We were probably the same - possibly even a shot better as I had a couple of birdies and I don't recall us losing m(any) holes to bogies. All that happened was we played really, really good 4BBB matchplay golf and we used my buddies 9 shots to the full. I holed about 5 long killer putts - I can - it happens My buddy played 3 killer chips - he can - it happens. Just so happens that yesterday it happened for us both - and that is golf. Nothing at all to do with false handicaps, banditry etc,
 
Would echo what the others say.

If you have a net 66 or score 40 points on a par 70, then by and large, it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other and will affect your handicap the same way, irrespective of the comp's format.

Well played...Amigo!😄
 
So he was annoyed that a two-ball playing better ball with an average playing handicap of 22 were on course to shoot roughly 25-26 over par? :lol::rofl::rofl::lol:

You'd expect that two-ball to be shooting around 18-19 on an average day.

Ah, brilliant.
 
Definitely a case of sour grapes. I can understand the view though that playing purely stroke would be harder to bring your handicap down especially when starting.

One bad hole can cause the shoulders to drop as the possibility of placing somewhere disappears instantly and concentration follows and the problem is compounded. In stableford this can be replaced with, oh well not going to score on this hole. I'll pick up and put it behind me.

Add in the fact than not enough clubs make the effort to explain the application of clause 19 so one or two bad holes in stroke play can soon turn into an NR.
 
palindromicbob said:
Definitely a case of sour grapes. I can understand the view though that playing purely stroke would be harder to bring your handicap down especially when starting.

One bad hole can cause the shoulders to drop as the possibility of placing somewhere disappears instantly and concentration follows and the problem is compounded. In stableford this can be replaced with, oh well not going to score on this hole. I'll pick up and put it behind me.

Add in the fact than not enough clubs make the effort to explain the application of clause 19 so one or two bad holes in stroke play can soon turn into an NR.
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Handicaps are calculated the same regardless so that theory holds no water whatsoever
 
You need to use the phrase " we never normally play that well" when you win as low handicappers absolutely hate that one!

Well done, just sour grapes as has been said!
 
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