Suarez

[MadAdey]

I love watching and reminiscing at some of the great old footage early on ITV4 on Saturday mornings from the 70's where tackles are flying in everywhere on boggy, sandy pitches and most if not all stay on their feet unless cut in half by the likes of Harris, Bremner, Souness, Hunter plus a host of other leg biters of the times.

I watched the 79 league cup final on Saturday with Forest Vs Southampton on a ripped up Wembley pitch and watching Birtles get chopped left right and centre with Gemmel dishing out his revenge only to see Birtles stay on his feet with studs flying in and still get the winning goal.

I watched a Leeds Vs Chelsea game from the 70's and think it should have had a certificate 18 attached and yet only had 2 bookings!

How long and how many of our millionaire pretty boys would last in those conditions and should they be shown these games to show how pathetic they look at times.

We all know the answer to that don't we. But the modern day footballer is a lot more of a fragile person that back then. In the old days old of football there stable diet consisted of steak, potatoes, steak and kidney puddings and other proper man food. Now it is all tightly controlled and they watch their carb intake and live on salads and fruit juice. The footballer back then was like a BMW M5, the modern day player is like a one of these super cars. In other words the old day footballer was fast and good and could do the job very well, but the modern player is just that bit more responsive, agile and faster. Problem is with that comes fragility and it will break easier, like owning one of those top of the range super cars. But I do love watching The Big Match, not quite old enough to remember it first time round.

 

[MegaSteve]

Just showing my age when I say my first heroes were Law, Charlton and Sir Matt Busby before moving to Giggs, Keane, Scholes & Ronaldo via Bryan Robson, Spark Hughes (only as a player though) Diego Maradona, Zinedine Zidane, Fat Ronaldo & Eric Cantona (another hugely flawed genius).

Slime.

WHAT ...

No Georgie Best?

Greatest player I have ever seen... And I am in no way a London based ManU supporter in any way....

 

[Slime]

WHAT ...

No Georgie Best?

Greatest player I have ever seen... And I am in no way a London based ManU supporter in any way....

Best was fantastic, no question, but Charlton was so graceful & Law was just an assassin..................always there and Best wound me up by wasting so much of his talent with his off-pitch activities. What a waste!
Greatest player of all time, sorry, I think it's Maradonna...........by a distance. He even won a World Cup all by himself.
Ronaldo and/or Messi will take over his title if they carry on as they have been over the last few years, they're just crazy.

Slime.

P.S. I remember one game at Old Trafford where Zinedine Zidane & Edgar Davids were bullied for 90 minutes by one man.........................there's really only one Keano!

 

[LanDog]

Ahhh Keane. My favourite ever player. Nothing will ever top him in my opinion

 

[MegaSteve]

Best was fantastic, no question, but Charlton was so graceful & Law was just an assassin..................always there and Best wound me up by wasting so much of his talent with his off-pitch activities. What a waste!
Greatest player of all time, sorry, I think it's Maradonna...........by a distance. He even won a World Cup all by himself.
Ronaldo and/or Messi will take over his title if they carry on as they have been over the last few years, they're just crazy.

Slime.

P.S. I remember one game at Old Trafford where Zinedine Zidane & Edgar Davids were bullied for 90 minutes by one man.........................there's really only one Keano!

Don't recollect having seen Maradona play 'in the flesh' have seen Messi a couple of times at the Emirates but, I suppose, based on the view... That footie was better "back in the day" Best remains as the best I've ever seen...

 

[Shaunmg]

The hysterical witch hunt against Suarez doesn’t surprise me at all, it’s nothing new. Like so many class players before him, he will be the subject of hate from opposing fans. Who are in fact just plain jealous, they want him banned at any opportunity, to take away his threat. Today it’s Suarez, yesterday it was Ronaldo, tomorrow it may be Sterling

Suarez may not be a pretty as Ronaldo or Van Persie, but it’s the same old story. We see diving every week, every game, but it’s the class that get singled out. In another week, Neville’s dive will be completely forgotten about. Suarez is no more guilty than the rest

The biggest problem at Liverpool under Dalglish was too many costly players were brought in that did not have the passion and commitment of Suarez, let alone the skill.

Suarez absence for 9 games was a big factor in failing to make the top four. So Long as opposing fans and the press keep up the hate campaign against Suarez, the more I know he is doing his job.

The goal scoring and assist stats speak for themselves,

 

[Captainron]

So when did football go bad. Loads of you are on about great players and the time when football was a great sport. What caused the deterioration of the game?

 

[Dodger]

So when did football go bad. Loads of you are on about great players and the time when football was a great sport. What caused the deterioration of the game?

Money.Plain and simple.

 

[thecraw]

The hysterical witch hunt against Suarez doesn’t surprise me at all, it’s nothing new. Like so many class players before him, he will be the subject of hate from opposing fans. Who are in fact just plain jealous, they want him banned at any opportunity, to take away his threat. Today it’s Suarez, yesterday it was Ronaldo, tomorrow it may be Sterling

Suarez may not be a pretty as Ronaldo or Van Persie, but it’s the same old story. We see diving every week, every game, but it’s the class that get singled out. In another week, Neville’s dive will be completely forgotten about. Suarez is no more guilty than the rest

The biggest problem at Liverpool under Dalglish was too many costly players were brought in that did not have the passion and commitment of Suarez, let alone the skill.

Suarez absence for 9 games was a big factor in failing to make the top four. So Long as opposing fans and the press keep up the hate campaign against Suarez, the more I know he is doing his job.

The goal scoring and assist stats speak for themselves,

I don't watch enough of Liverpool to comment on if he's world class or a run of the mill good player what I started this thread for was the cynical and deliberate stamp on an opposition player. Disgusting.

 

[One Planer]

I don't watch enough of Liverpool to comment on if he's world class or a run of the mill good player what I started this thread for was the cynical and deliberate stamp on an opposition player. Disgusting.

He's a far cry from world class Craw.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I don't watch enough of Liverpool to comment on if he's world class or a run of the mill good player what I started this thread for was the cynical and deliberate stamp on an opposition player. Disgusting.

Agreed, but it was also exactly what Osman tried to do to Sterling (achilles rake), except he couldn't catch him.

 

[Liverbirdie]

So when did football go bad. Loads of you are on about great players and the time when football was a great sport. What caused the deterioration of the game?

I think the first mega sky money deal about 8-10 years ago when the were paid a billion. The majority of extra money over the last 10 years has gone straight into the players pockets. There's never been more money in English football, but also never been more clubs in debt.

 

[Robobum]

Quotes like this make me laugh. You really know your football don't you.....

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players.html

Second in the Premier League scoring chart I see............... So that really does sum up your knowledge about what is going on in the game doesn't it

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/luis-suarez-interview-liverpools-controversial-1278003

 

[Robobum]

Last year's chance conversion rate:



For the 11/12 PL season:

RVP 21%
Roone 23%y
Aguero 23%
BA 21%
Dempsey 15%
Adebayor 18%
Ciise 42% - Best
Balotelli 25%
Holt 22%
Jelavic 31%
Graham 18%
Torres 13%
Suarez 11% - Worst


In other words Suarez nets around 1 in 10 of his chances.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...arez-must-go-to-finishing-school-6657741.html

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/04/alan-shearer-claims-luis-suarez-is.html

 

[Dodger]

Here is a post taken from another forum I frequent........sums everything up about not just the EPL but football in the higher flights in general.....



This just go's to prove to me that i am right to absolutely HATE the EPL. It is slowly but surely disappearing up it's own arse!
It has become so totally consumed by money that every minute detail is pored over ad nasuem because of the potential of a "mistake".

Actual football seems to be more and more of an incidental add on these days, handshakes, t-shirts and ref's seem to be far more important.

Give me a freezing cold Highland league game any day of the week, go and watch the game, watch some bone crunching mistimed tackles and the odd bit of skill and go the the pub to discuss it all over a few beers.

"Greatest league in the world"........ aye right.

 

[thecraw]

Here is a post taken from another forum I frequent........sums everything up about not just the EPL but football in the higher flights in general.....



This just go's to prove to me that i am right to absolutely HATE the EPL. It is slowly but surely disappearing up it's own arse!
It has become so totally consumed by money that every minute detail is pored over ad nasuem because of the potential of a "mistake".

Actual football seems to be more and more of an incidental add on these days, handshakes, t-shirts and ref's seem to be far more important.

Give me a freezing cold Highland league game any day of the week, go and watch the game, watch some bone crunching mistimed tackles and the odd bit of skill and go the the pub to discuss it all over a few beers.

"Greatest league in the world"........ aye right.

I have watched more dross involving Chelsea, Arsenal, Villa, Liverpool etc than I have from my days following Arthurlie home and away. Proper mans football!

C.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Will have been said here already I have no doubt - but Torres and his diving has brought it upon himself; and Suarez - if diving in front of Moyes like that was not incitement to violence (not by Moyes - by the Everton fans) then I don't know what is.

 

[Robobum]

Here is a post taken from another forum I frequent........sums everything up about not just the EPL but football in the higher flights in general.....



This just go's to prove to me that i am right to absolutely HATE the EPL. It is slowly but surely disappearing up it's own arse!
It has become so totally consumed by money that every minute detail is pored over ad nasuem because of the potential of a "mistake".

Actual football seems to be more and more of an incidental add on these days, handshakes, t-shirts and ref's seem to be far more important. .

Give me a freezing cold Highland league game any day of the week, go and watch the game, watch some bone crunching mistimed tackles and the odd bit of skill and go the the pub to discuss it all over a few beers.

"Greatest league in the world"........ aye right.

Trouble is dodger, this guys perfect ideal of part time players playing for the love of the game is totally flawed as well.

If team B, 10 miles down the road, offer £10 more - the lad will use it as leverage for team A to match it or they'll be off down the road by the weekend. Same story as top flight, just a shed load of noughts missing off the deal.

 

[Andy808]

I think they should be put in front of a firing squad as soon as they are proven to dive. That should stop it in it's tracks and should only mean losing a few of the worst offenders in the process.
As for the refs they can have the same punishment for 3 wrong decisions.
Anyway get the daggers sharpened as we play Swansea tomorrow so should be more amunition for you all.

 

[Andy808]

While we are on about refs does anyone find it a bit odd that in the first game of Terrys ban there are calls by Chavski about the REF using racial abuse. Mind you I expect nothing less from them now.