Suarez

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Wanted to see what the fuss was about so typed Suarez into YouTube and its pages of a celebration!!!!!!!!!
No goals, no cheating, just muppet after muppet desperate to upload 20 secs of sky footage showing a player celebrating a goal!

I loved playing but find the whole mentality sad!
 
This really confuses me, why is it all of a sudden that Suarez is the problem in the game of football and is the biggest cheat around. This wonderful game is full of players cheating at all clubs. My problem is with al this diving scandal that is going on at hte minute you are going to get players getting booked for things like Torres did yesterday. Anyone who has ever played this game and understands it just has to listen to Gary Neville on his alledged dive (I never thought I would be agreeing with him, but he really knows his stuff). Evans came flying out at Torres, he had to try and jump over him or get smashed. The zoomed in slow motion replay shows the studs of Evans going down the front of Torres shin pads. SWo how can anyone say that was a dive.Retrospective cards can never work. Look at Goodison yesterday. Sterling should not have got his booking, but should have got booked for his next tackle. Fellaini and his flying elbows should hvae walked for kicking Allen. Suarez should have got booked for the challenge on Distin. Several other incidents in that game that could have resulted in cards being given retrospectively. But if you are going to start changing decisions retrospectively then you have to give Suarez his winning goal and Liverpool 3 points. But then take it away from him as retrospectively he would not be on the pitch to score it.Biggest problem in football is he way that the rules keep getting changed. It is making it so hard for referees to get things correct as there is far too much interpretation in the game, rather thanblack and white rules. Look at offside, younger forum memberes will not remember the old offside rule. That was simple to enforce. They did not look at all of this first phase and second phase and are you in the invisible triangle that determines if you involved. Come on FIFA sot out the rules and make them simple to enforce again.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Biased opinions perchance? I'm sure you also feel Chelsea got everything yesterday, and Man U were on the wrong end of some decisions also.
Jog on whilst the adults talk.
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Honest opinions actually, sorry if they're different from yours!
No. United's winner was definitely offside, no question.

Anything else?

Slime.
 
Slime said:
Honest opinions actually, sorry if they're different from yours!
No. United's winner was definitely offside, no question.

Anything else?

Slime.
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Due to everything you said being anti-Liverpool, pro-Everton.

No balanced view, maybe even an Everton goal should not have stood, due it being a Liverpool throw in, Fellaini's elbow also being a red card offence.

So a very selective point of view then.
 
Blademaster said:
Ys he was clipped but not enough to fall over, never mind the facial grimaces and clutching his shin. A 5 year old boy could have stayed on his feet and carried on. These guys are all cheats and actors.....
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One of the biggest loads of rubbish I have ever heard. Did you see the zoomed in slow motion replay. Evans put his studs down the front of Torres shinpad. Have you ever really played football at any kind of level? I would love to see you run at the same speed as Torres, have to jump to stop himself being injured by Evans diving into him, then getting caught as you are jumping to stop yourself getting injured. THen let us see if you are still on your feet or not. I think we know the answer to that......
 
You must be blind.

Diving boils down to this and it's fairly simple.

Could Torres have stayed on his feet? Yes. Did he stay on his feet? No. Thus he made the most of it, dived to get a free kick and get Evans booked.

Your excuse he dived to avoid contact, might be valid if he got straight back up and wasn't rolling around faking a non existent injury. The only thing worse than cheats is those who offer excuses for them. Poor little Torres was so scared of running into a defender he has to hurl himself to the deck. Amazing he has the courage to take to the field incase someone touches him :rolleyes:
 
Liverbirdie said:
Due to everything you said being anti-Liverpool, pro-Everton.

No balanced view, maybe even an Everton goal should not have stood, due it being a Liverpool throw in, Fellaini's elbow also being a red card offence.

So a very selective point of view then.
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Taking a look at the game, the ref clearly got some decisions wrong. If we go by the letter of the law, Suarez should've been sent off for two nasty challenges. He made no effort to get the ball and caught Everton players with his studs both times in cynical moves.

Obviously his goal at the end wasn't offside, however Coates was climbing over the defender. I personally like to let those challenges go, as a good tussle is what football should be about.

You could say it evened itself out.....
 
LanDog said:
On Suarez, he couldn't finish his dinner
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The best post on the thread. For such a very good footballer, his composure in front of goal is shocking. Liverpool would not be in the bottom half if he could locate any cow's arse with that banjo.
 
Robobum said:
The best post on the thread. For such a very good footballer, his composure in front of goal is shocking. Liverpool would not be in the bottom half if he could locate any cow's arse with that banjo.
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Quotes like this make me laugh. You really know your football don't you.....

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players.html

Second in the Premier League scoring chart I see............... So that really does sum up your knowledge about what is going on in the game doesn't it:rolleyes:
 
Liverbirdie said:
Due to everything you said being anti-Liverpool, pro-Everton.

No balanced view, maybe even an Everton goal should not have stood, due it being a Liverpool throw in, Fellaini's elbow also being a red card offence.
So a very selective point of view then.
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Especially the bit where I said "No. United's winner was definitely offside, no question". Obviously 'anti Liverpool, pro Everton'!
Don't be so defensive Liverbirdie, it's only a chat about football.
Chillax a little, life will be much sweeter and don't feel obliged to defend Suarez, you can despise him too you know :whistle:.

Slime.
 
MadAdey said:
One of the biggest loads of rubbish I have ever heard. Did you see the zoomed in slow motion replay. Evans put his studs down the front of Torres shinpad. Have you ever really played football at any kind of level? I would love to see you run at the same speed as Torres, have to jump to stop himself being injured by Evans diving into him, then getting caught as you are jumping to stop yourself getting injured. THen let us see if you are still on your feet or not. I think we know the answer to that......
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"all down his shin pad" ooooh the poor thing! No wonder he fell down clutching his upper shin then - if someone bashed my shin pad I bet it would really really hurt!

I think you should have gone to Specsavers, unless of course you were actually watching a different replay, because in the one I saw the level of contact was minimal and Torres' histrionics were totally unjustified. Judging by other's comments on here and on the YouTube replays you are in a minority of one.

Judging by the personal nature of your response to me and to Robobum you clearly fancy yourself as something of a keyboard warrior - and I thought members of a golfing forum would be more grown up than that!
 
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What with today's latest revelations the amount of bell ends in the EPL is reaching epic proportions.

All this in the self proclaimed "best league in the world"......indeed.
 
MadAdey said:
Quotes like this make me laugh. You really know your football don't you.....

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players.html

Second in the Premier League scoring chart I see............... So that really does sum up your knowledge about what is going on in the game doesn't it:rolleyes:
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Suarez has a natural talent and ability. However having a goal scorers touch isn't one of the things he's blessed with. He can get himself into positions, yes. But he continues to miss easier chances and yet somehow convert more difficult ones! His hat-trick at Norwich being a perfect example really. He missed quite a simple 1 on 1, then moments later scored an outside of the boot beauty. His talent is unquestionable, his attitude however is despicable, he is now probably seen as the best player at Liverpool and yet how he behaves on the pitch is a disgraceful example to young supporters of the club. If I was a supporter of the club which I'm not. I'd be ashamed to have to tie myself to an organisation that supports him. Or furthermore an organisation that seems to refuse to recognise its PR mistakes which have been so apparent in the club's severe fall from grace over the past 18 months
 
Blademaster said:
"all down his shin pad" ooooh the poor thing! No wonder he fell down clutching his upper shin then - if someone bashed my shin pad I bet it would really really hurt!

I think you should have gone to Specsavers, unless of course you were actually watching a different replay, because in the one I saw the level of contact was minimal and Torres' histrionics were totally unjustified. Judging by other's comments on here and on the YouTube replays you are in a minority of one.

Judging by the personal nature of your response to me and to Robobum you clearly fancy yourself as something of a keyboard warrior - and I thought members of a golfing forum would be more grown up than that!
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Here we go, when struggling to find a response let us just start to try and throw insults around. (someone help me please and explain what a keyboard warrior is as I guess that was some kind of insult that was being thrown my way)........:rofl:

By what you have wrote I now understand where you are coming from. You agree that Torres was caught, I do agree he was making more of it than was needed, but he was caught. What are you trying to say? Does a player have to be smashed by another player to be allowed to go down without getting called a cheat? Is a player not allowed to try and get out of the way of rather than take it and risk injury? If a player does try and jump over a tackle and he gets caught in the process then he is going to go flying over he has no feet on the floor to keep his balance.
 
LanDog said:
Suarez has a natural talent and ability. However having a goal scorers touch isn't one of the things he's blessed with. He can get himself into positions, yes. But he continues to miss easier chances and yet somehow convert more difficult ones! His hat-trick at Norwich being a perfect example really. He missed quite a simple 1 on 1, then moments later scored an outside of the boot beauty. His talent is unquestionable, his attitude however is despicable, he is now probably seen as the best player at Liverpool and yet how he behaves on the pitch is a disgraceful example to young supporters of the club. If I was a supporter of the club which I'm not. I'd be ashamed to have to tie myself to an organisation that supports him. Or furthermore an organisation that seems to refuse to recognise its PR mistakes which have been so apparent in the club's severe fall from grace over the past 18 months
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Agree with you on this this one mate he is an embarrassment at times. I am a Liverpool fan and I would certainly prefer to be playing with him than against him, but I do at times sit shouting at the TV when he misses a good chance or takes a dive. He is embarrassing at times, but who else does Liverpool have to pin their hopes on? Downing, Henderson? Do not make me laugh....
 
MadAdey said:
Agree with you on this this one mate he is an embarrassment at times. I am a Liverpool fan and I would certainly prefer to be playing with him than against him, but I do at times sit shouting at the TV when he misses a good chance or takes a dive. He is embarrassing at times, but who else does Liverpool have to pin their hopes on? Downing, Henderson? Do not make me laugh....
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I see your point. But I'm trying to look at this as a football fan not a Utd fan. The way I see it is that a club of Liverpool's stature shouldn't be relying on this Cretin. But it's down to a horrendous transfer policy that they are. Some of their buys have been truly shocking. And to me it seems the club are too proud to admit their mistakes
 
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