Strawberries and cream anyone?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2262742/13.1-million-viewers-watch-Nadal-beat-Federer.html

Seems it peaked higher with Fed and Nadal final

As for it being cheap and easy - sorry but that's not the case far from it

That was arguably the greatest final of modern era tennis. If you wish to try and use that to prove a point you go ahead. I'm not gonna go google but I'd guess that the average viewing figures are lower for finals without Murray in.

Would you prefer the word word profitable instead of cheap? The BBC wouldn't have signed a new 8 year contract for Wimbledon if it didn't keep money coming in. They drop all sports as soon as the figures don't hold up.
 
Many years ago I joined a tennis club, I was new to the area. It consisted on three brand new all weather courts and a brand new large shed (clubhouse) which they were chuffed with. During one club night, I'd only been there about two months, a nice lady called to me from the clubhouse asking if I wanted to go in the draw for Wimbledon tickets. I replied "ooo that would be lovely" or summat like that. 20 minutes later, in the middle of a lads doubles, she called out again, " Hi CF (well not CF)...you've got men's final, do you want it?" :whoo: You betcha bottom I do!!!!! £50 for men's final!!!!!! I got to see Agassi V Inanisavitch. 5 sets of pure drama !!!! The tickets were selling for £2k for the final outside on the day.
Utterly brilliant. It was the best tennis club I've belonged to. We used to have a really brilliant laugh on club nights. Mainly at my expense, I was rubbish compared to some of the others.
 
That was arguably the greatest final of modern era tennis. If you wish to try and use that to prove a point you go ahead. I'm not gonna go google but I'd guess that the average viewing figures are lower for finals without Murray in.

Would you prefer the word word profitable instead of cheap? The BBC wouldn't have signed a new 8 year contract for Wimbledon if it didn't keep money coming in. They drop all sports as soon as the figures don't hold up.

That doesn't make it cheap and easy though does

BBC get nothing but slagged of on here especially when it comes to sport

Here they are supporting one of the biggest sporting events of the year and they still get slagged off. If Sky were doing it the celebrations would be through the roof. The BBC for some will never win no matter what they do. Their coverage of Wimbledon is superb , its first class sports coverage and the level of tennis that can be watched by the UK is massive - the exposure is superb, such a shame that golf no longer gets the same exposure because of £5mil over 5 years.
 
Thought I'd start a feel good thread about a great British summer event....

And, it becomes open season on the beeb :confused:...

Blimely agreed with this, what happened to the thread!

Anyway, really enjoy playing tennis and watching Wimbledon. Still don't understand how they cover the court so quickly to get back hard hit balls. Just makes you realise that they play a different game.

I hoped Wawrinka would win, amazing player to watch when firing on all cylinders, but that isn't going to happen this year:(
 
That doesn't make it cheap and easy though does

BBC get nothing but slagged of on here especially when it comes to sport

Here they are supporting one of the biggest sporting events of the year and they still get slagged off. If Sky were doing it the celebrations would be through the roof. The BBC for some will never win no matter what they do. Their coverage of Wimbledon is superb , its first class sports coverage and the level of tennis that can be watched by the UK is massive - the exposure is superb, such a shame that golf no longer gets the same exposure because of £5mil over 5 years.

I haven't slagged the BBC off. And it is easy. How many new innovative ideas do they implement each year? they have a product that works but it's very similar each year.

Im sure there are lots of other shows that are more difficult for them.

The bbc didn't lose the golf. They gave it up. For the money they pay on other shows they could have found the money but decided it wasn't worth having. They even let it go a year early.

i think that sky produce a better product overall and am happy to accept adverts and gimmicks. But the BBC also shows very good sports shows too. but they aren't some shining knight that needs defending.
 
Blimely agreed with this, what happened to the thread!

Anyway, really enjoy playing tennis and watching Wimbledon. Still don't understand how they cover the court so quickly to get back hard hit balls. Just makes you realise that they play a different game.

I hoped Wawrinka would win, amazing player to watch when firing on all cylinders, but that isn't going to happen this year:(

I was hoping Serena would have a go. She wouldn't have been the only pregnant participant. Could have been a special one off lol
 
So people complain when BBC don't show commitment to sport and then people complain when they show commitment to a sport - blimey the BBC can never win.

Love Wimbledon- go every year as well , it's a superb sporting event

Don't defend them Phil, their commitment to sport in the UK is shocking. They would rather pay the likes of Lineker fortunes rather than front up for the likes of golf, rugby, f1 etc
 
The BBC coverage has been comprehensive all the way back to the days of Dan Maskell doing the commentating (what a man, and a decent golfer) and even back then when the BBC had a rich treasure chest of sports they gave it massive air time. This isn't about bashing the BBC and their coverage which continues to be thorough but they haven't made any significant progress in their presentation for decades. I would argue that had it gone to Sky (or indeed other channels) they would have found a fresh way to make the coverage more modern.
 
Don't defend them Phil, their commitment to sport in the UK is shocking. They would rather pay the likes of Lineker fortunes rather than front up for the likes of golf, rugby, f1 etc

They have to show a commitment to all their license payers. They show what they know is popular and watched by a great number of viewers and they also need to justify their costs to the government.

As soon as the sports became Non protected to freevirw Sky are always going to put up the money meaning the BBC will have to justify the extra cost - Sky have an unlimited budget , they know that getting full access to sports will give them more subscribers

The BBC have two/three channels to show the whole range of programmes they want to show - Sky can dedicate whole channels to sport , they are even moving to dedicating whole channels to one sport alone ( mainly because they are losing subscribers )

I have no doubt if the BBC could justify the cost they would have every sport going - no one watched the F1 and now it's one CH4 still people don't watch it. BBC is a public service to try and satisfy the whole country as opposed to specific demographics i.e. Golf fans or rugby fans or cricket fans etc
 
They have to show a commitment to all their license payers. They show what they know is popular and watched by a great number of viewers and they also need to justify their costs to the government.

As soon as the sports became Non protected to freevirw Sky are always going to put up the money meaning the BBC will have to justify the extra cost - Sky have an unlimited budget , they know that getting full access to sports will give them more subscribers

The BBC have two/three channels to show the whole range of programmes they want to show - Sky can dedicate whole channels to sport , they are even moving to dedicating whole channels to one sport alone ( mainly because they are losing subscribers )

I have no doubt if the BBC could justify the cost they would have every sport going - no one watched the F1 and now it's one CH4 still people don't watch it. BBC is a public service to try and satisfy the whole country as opposed to specific demographics i.e. Golf fans or rugby fans or cricket fans etc

BBC is a public service that we are forced to pay for.
That's the problem for me.
Obviously you think the Beeb is blooming marvellous so happy days.
 
The BBC is a service provider and they have had the tennis forever. It doesn't make the service they provide perfect and I feel their coverage is formulated and unchanged from what they churned out last year, five years ago, and probably a decade ago. Like their golf coverage, they simply don't invest in the product and there could be so much more done make their coverage bigger and better but they won't. While its in BBC hands nothing will change. Funny how they can move genres like drama and documentaries forward and be award winning and innovative but give them two weeks of a captive audience (i.e. the tennis fans waiting for their annual Wimbledon fix) and they do nothing differently and wheel the same graphics, same faces and same gap filling behind the scenes trailers
 
A number of issues have appeared today

Players turning up knowing they are injured but playing one set then retiring - they get paid though but the fans miss out

Also Tomic admitting that he used a timeout for the trainer as a tactical move
 
Those players got £35k for turning up. Had they pulled out before starting they would have got nothing. The system is plain wrong and fans have been cheated out of tennis they have spent a lot of money to see.

My wife will be there on Friday. She has paid for a train ticket, hotel accommodation for two nights, tickets plus food and drink. I hope she doesn't get stuffed on Friday in the same way people today were. It needs sorting.
 
Those players got £35k for turning up. Had they pulled out before starting they would have got nothing. The system is plain wrong and fans have been cheated out of tennis they have spent a lot of money to see.

My wife will be there on Friday. She has paid for a train ticket, hotel accommodation for two nights, tickets plus food and drink. I hope she doesn't get stuffed on Friday in the same way people today were. It needs sorting.

I haven't looked into it, but are they able to be replaced if they'd cancelled without hitting a ball? If not, then I'd imagine some of them did the right thing. The major winners don't need it. But 35k could mean a lot to some qualifiers.
 
I haven't looked into it, but are they able to be replaced if they'd cancelled without hitting a ball? If not, then I'd imagine some of them did the right thing. The major winners don't need it. But 35k could mean a lot to some qualifiers.
On the Tour if a player drops out due to injury before the event they are guaranteed the first round prize and are replaced, the replacement gets the money from round 2 onwards.

That rule doesn't apply to the 4 big tournaments, so it's turn up and try or no pay.

The Tennis authorities are reviewing it though, apparently!

Lord T, what has your missus got tickets for? Centre Court or outside courts?
 
Those players got £35k for turning up. Had they pulled out before starting they would have got nothing. The system is plain wrong and fans have been cheated out of tennis they have spent a lot of money to see.

My wife will be there on Friday. She has paid for a train ticket, hotel accommodation for two nights, tickets plus food and drink. I hope she doesn't get stuffed on Friday in the same way people today were. It needs sorting.

Federer made some very good points though

The guys are taking a risk - anything could happen that could mean they go through to the next round - opponent withdraws , a rain delay gives them a extra day , they get through on adrenaline and painkillers. For some of the players it's massive playing at Wimbledon - it's the Crown Jewels in Tennis and they just want to take the place they earned - so I can sort of understand the players going for it in regards the chance they have taking away the money aspect.

For the Tomic attitude is just poor and possibly worse
 
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