Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
You got a good memory then
[Until recently England had a problem waving the Union Flag on the wrong occasions]
St George’s Day
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[Until recently England had a problem waving the Union Flag on the wrong occasions]
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
What wrong occasions, pray tell?You got a good memory then
[Until recently England had a problem waving the Union Flag on the wrong occasions]
You can use Google to prove anything these days. I looked as I wondered if there was a specific reason it isn't celebrated and seems to cause a lot of consternationYou got a good memory then
[Until recently England had a problem waving the Union Flag on the wrong occasions]
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I don't need to wait for St Andrew's Day to celebrate my pride in being Scottish. For me it's a spiritual thing - a feeling - and nothing to do with flags, whisky, kilts or anything else. But that spiritual feeling also requires me to accept and 'own' (as much as I can) all that is wrong with Scotland and what Scots can, and do, do that I'd rather not be the case. I can't sit outside simply looking in saying that I'm British and so the stuff I don't like has nothing to do with me.
So it is with St George's Day. Celebrate being English - it's shouldn't be just words - and there is much to be proud of, as well as critical of.
So it is with St George's Day. Celebrate being English - it's shouldn't be just words - and there is much to be proud of, as well as critical of.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Honestly, there is not much to celebrate about being English these days. Not surprised the day goes largely unnoticed.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
There actually is...but it tends to get diluted by what is more problematic. The very fact that many English recognise and despair about the sort of problems and attitudes that are easy to focus on; that get in the news, and that we can all experience from time to time, tells me that the hearts of the many, if not the most, who are English are basically in the right place - certainly more towards the right place than the wrong place. And that is surely something to acknowledge and be proud of - even if just a little.
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SteveJay
Head Pro
It is actually my birthday today, but I'm not a George, but definitely a day worth celebrating
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Pedant Alert!
Technically it isn’t St George’s day today as the church don’t allow Saints days to be the week before or after Easter so they have moved it to next Monday (28th)
Technically it isn’t St George’s day today as the church don’t allow Saints days to be the week before or after Easter so they have moved it to next Monday (28th)
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Perhaps its more that the right wing element have taken over the St Georges Cross as their symbol. As 100% English, thats how I view it when I see it being flown at someones house these days.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Agree 100%. When I stayed over in Hawaii, people (bars) went crazy on St. Patrick’s day. None of them Irish.
St. Andrew’s day means nothing to me apart from it being my deceased brother’s birthday.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Similar in Scotland with the Saltire.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
Excellent pedantry!
I’m waiting for another pedant to come along to point out he was Turkish
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
The lack of things "English" being done today, appears to me, to be part and parcel of English people struggling to identify or classify English culture in any similar way to the other British Countries or other European countries.
We should make ourselves an English meal and sing a few English songs, wear some English clothes and do some English dances.
Not much of a problem for other countries - even Australia could manage something like that.
We should make ourselves an English meal and sing a few English songs, wear some English clothes and do some English dances.
Not much of a problem for other countries - even Australia could manage something like that.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
It’s not the right wing in Scotland. It’s the Ess Enn Pee socialist extremists.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Yeah, yeah, yeah - that's just you and your common sense extremism as usual.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Scotland, Wales and NI sporting events v England
Commonwealth Games supporting England
Rangers supporters when the occasional one or two support Scotland
PS I don't think many Scottish right wing extremists will be waving a Saltire.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Yes, that’s why I said similar in fear of encroaching on a subject that may be banned on here.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
Yeah but that’s not political, more a social observationYes, that’s why I said similar in fear of encroaching on a subject that may be banned on here.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
Extreme common sense should be an olympic event.Yeah, yeah, yeah - that's just you and your common sense extremism as usual.
Sadly, or maybe not, England (and to a lesser degree the rest of the UK) has become a real melting pot of nations, cultures and beliefs and so it is inevitable that our own identity has become watered down. Add in the politics and do go gooders having their tuppence worth and perhaps it isn't a surprise. The flag has been "hijacked" by so called football fans, and members of certain political beliefs, As an example my trust employs 7,800 employess and we have 59 countries represented so it is no surprise all of that comes out. Am I saddened by the way St George is or isn't remembered. Not really. I do remember back in the 80's a lot of local pubs doing promotions around the day and the golf club has tried to do themed days in the past but they seem less inclined as take up was never that great
