Spikeless Shoes - A Warning

Just as a follow up to the above, hereunder an unexpurgated extract from the retailer's advertisement:

"The Free-Inspired outsole with flex grooves and rubber traction pods gives you an almost bare foot feeling whilst still offering the stability and traction of traditional golf shoes."

That is a pretty unambiguous statement, I am sure you will agree and it was on this basis that I returned them.

BUt do they is the question? At no point in that statement do they say in all weather conditions. In the dry they probably do work as well as any spiked shoe. I would never expect to wear spikeless shoes when it is damp/wet and expect to get good grip.

When I play football I do not wear my molded boots, let alone my astro turf trainers in wet conditions, I would wear my studded boots. BEcause if I did not then I am going to end up on my arse.
 
Is that not kinda common sense. Watch any golf tournament where is pissing down and you hardly see any spikeless,.... Compare that with a warm dry event.

Just because the tele shows golf to be an all round summer sport, mrs Mother Nature tends to disagree

BUt do they is the question? At no point in that statement do they say in all weather conditions. In the dry they probably do work as well as any spiked shoe. I would never expect to wear spikeless shoes when it is damp/wet and expect to get good grip.

When I play football I do not wear my molded boots, let alone my astro turf trainers in wet conditions, I would wear my studded boots. BEcause if I did not then I am going to end up on my arse.

... and nowhere in their advertisement do they say 'not in all weather conditions'. Like I said, their claim of "traction of traditional golf shoes" is unambiguous and without any qualification regarding weather conditions. Being as they are advertised and sold in the UK - a country notorious for rain even in the summer months - then they should be suitable for use in the UK; i.e. fit for purpose.
 
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... and nowhere in their advertisement do they say 'not in all weather conditions'. Like I said, their claim of "traction of traditional golf shoes" is unambiguous and without any qualification regarding weather conditions. Being as they are advertised and sold in the UK - a country notorious for rain even in the summer months - then they should be suitable for use in the UK; i.e. fit for purpose.

So let me get this right then....... Because something does not go to the length of telling you when NOT to use them and expects common sense to be used it is their fault. You can't expect something with a moulded rubber sole to offer the same levels of grip in the wet as something that has spikes in. You said they claimed to offer a good level of traction, that to me does not say good grip on wet grass.
 
I can't help thinking that you are not actually reading my posts.

I did not say what they claimed,- I reproduced above word-for-word what they claimed which is unambiguous.

Having been out of the game for a few years, I realised upon my return that that my old spikes were unacceptable and therefore bought a new pair of what I was told were the best thing since sliced bread. This was supported by the advertising. I am struggling therefore to understand how it is my fault that I took their claims at face value.
 
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So let me get this right then....... Because something does not go to the length of telling you when NOT to use them and expects common sense to be used it is their fault. You can't expect something with a moulded rubber sole to offer the same levels of grip in the wet as something that has spikes in. You said they claimed to offer a good level of traction, that to me does not say good grip on wet grass.

I'm just relieved that my flip flops come with a warning label.... " not suitable for use in snow , ice or general winter conditions...." :whistle:
 
I can't help thinking that you are not actually reading my posts.

I did not say what they claimed,- I reproduced above word-for-word what they claimed which is unambiguous.

Having been out of the game for a few years, I realised upon my return that that my old spikes were unacceptable and therefore bought a new pair of what I was told were the best thing since sliced bread. This was supported by the advertising. I am struggling therefore to understand how it is my fault that I took their claims at face value.

Don't read a taylormade add for got sake.... You'll be well pissed when your not driving 350 yards bullet straight ;)
 
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Heard they have that covered although it's an optional extra

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I do not doubt for one minute that some people on here do where their spikeless shoes in the wet and have no problem. But for me who likes to have a rip at the ball I drive through it so I need my left foot to stay planted and I just could not imagine being able to do that in the wet in spikeless shoes.

Playing a couple of months ago I stepped onto the 10th and smashed one miles to the right after my left foot slipped. I looked at my studs thinking that they had clogged up with mud to find that my left outer heel stud had gone missing, when you looked down at the floor you could see where my heel had slipped. THat was just one stud missing from the heel, I could not imagine playing in the wet without any full stop.
 
I used to have a very mobile swing, and often slipped, even using metal spikes. My swing is now more stable, and I have played through the winter in Ecco tour hybrid GTX. They are goretex lined, so clearly designed to be used in the wet.

Have I had slipping issues? Yes, a couple of times. Why? Because the soles were clogged with wet grass, and bits of mud. Guess what, when I have worn soft spikes, the same has happened too.

If you are wearing spikeless, and slipping about, clear the soles with your pitch mark repairer, and stop swaying about. It's you, not the shoes.
 
Lets not forget these spikeless shoes are nothing new. I had a pair of Stylo back in the 80's with the same pimple soled design being rehashed. Was always a summer shoe, perfect for rounds after work but not always great for dewy mornings or in the damp.
 
Its only me that has returned them as far as this thread goes and, as has been pointed out in a subsequent thread, I only have 4 posts which seems to devalue my contribution. However, I'll persevere.

As said in my original post, I continued playing after I fell and slipped on several more occasions during the round, whilst my playing partners, wearing softspikes did not. I have played golf for many years and never fallen on my arse before, even in extremely wet conditions, so it was pretty obviously the shoes that were the problem.

The advertisement for the particular shoes I had bought clearly indicated that they were suitable for all conditions, which was patently not the case and that is why I returned them - at the suggestion of the pro in the shop.

I assume under similar conditions that you would have kept them and simply blamed yourself every time you slipped?

You took your Spikeless shoes back to the pro because you slipped whilst wearing them in the wet ?!!

Surely you used common sense and could see that at times Spikeless will not provide solid grip during wet times ?!!

Did the pro take the shoes back !
 
Its only me that has returned them as far as this thread goes and, as has been pointed out in a subsequent thread, I only have 4 posts which seems to devalue my contribution. However, I'll persevere.

As said in my original post, I continued playing after I fell and slipped on several more occasions during the round, whilst my playing partners, wearing softspikes did not. I have played golf for many years and never fallen on my arse before, even in extremely wet conditions, so it was pretty obviously the shoes that were the problem.

The advertisement for the particular shoes I had bought clearly indicated that they were suitable for all conditions, which was patently not the case and that is why I returned them - at the suggestion of the pro in the shop.

I assume under similar conditions that you would have kept them and simply blamed yourself every time you slipped?

This?
 
And the poster took that literally and didn't apply a bit of common sense so fell over a few times during I'm guessing very wet times and took the shoes back !!

That's comedy gold :rofl:
 
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