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Speeding in a thirty limit

I keep reading this phrase "driving slowly".
Out of interest what do people classify as "slow"...?

Through built up areas I would say people can drive as slow as they want, if they feel safer doing so. When it comes to open 60MPH A-class roads then as long as the conditions are good there really is no reason why they can't go 50MPH minimum. Motorways you should be driving at 60MPH as IMO if you do not feel safe driving at those speeds then you should not be on one. It always puzzles me when lorries have to pull out of the far left lane and spend 1 mile trying to get around cars going at 50 which then means people have to start pulling into the inside lane causing the traffic flow to back up.
 
Through built up areas I would say people can drive as slow as they want, if they feel safer doing so. When it comes to open 60MPH A-class roads then as long as the conditions are good there really is no reason why they can't go 50MPH minimum. Motorways you should be driving at 60MPH as IMO if you do not feel safe driving at those speeds then you should not be on one. It always puzzles me when lorries have to pull out of the far left lane and spend 1 mile trying to get around cars going at 50 which then means people have to start pulling into the inside lane causing the traffic flow to back up.

I was informed many years ago by my driving instructor that, when taking the test,
if you drive at 30 in a 60mph area you will fail the test (inconsiderate driving)
 
This reminds me of a quote I heard a couple of years back, no idea where from:

"Anyone travelling slower than you is an idiot, anyone going faster than you is a maniac"

Not far off summing this thread up!
 
people have to start pulling into the inside lane causing the traffic flow to back up.

Er. Shouldn't they be in the inside lane anyway? The others are 'Overtaking' lanes! :whistle:

Of course, the Outside one is reserved, currently for Beemers and Audis! :rolleyes:
 
SILH, read my post I did say it is the drivers decision and what you did driving at 30MPH is fine.

I was informed many years ago by my driving instructor that, when taking the test,
if you drive at 30 in a 60mph area you will fail the test (inconsiderate driving)

Driving too slowly = failing to make progress = careless driving. It can be construed as an offence.
 
I have noticed that when driving in the South of England.
I have also noticed that they seem to be constantly undertaken by 70 mph drivers in the 'slow' lane.

The 4 lane motorways seem to be the worst. As there's no 'middle lane' any more it seems to confuse the middle lane hoggers, so they play safe and go in the 3rd lane just in case they need to overtake someone in the next 5 miles. Often leaving the 2 inside lanes empty apart from lorries.
 
I have noticed that when driving in the South of England.
I have also noticed that they seem to be constantly undertaken by 70 mph drivers in the 'slow' lane.

In Scotland, 'Thou shalt not Undertake (me)' and 'Thou shalt not move over to let someone overtake' seem to be some folk's 11th and 12th Commandments.

There are some other Driving cultural differences too, some better, others poorer from my experience. Southerners tend to let people into traffic better, probably because they know they are going to need the same courtesy themselves pretty soon! Scots obey Orange/Red lights better!

Any idea how the Edinbugh (now there's an anti-car Council!) Trams are performing?
 
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Totally disagree with the Southerners letting folk into traffic bit. Bolted eyes staring forwards mainly, 7 inches from the car in front.
I have nearly always found the west coast Scots offer far more courtesy. Worst drivers IMO are around Leeds, Brighton and Swindon. Someone once commented that the London cabbies come down to Swindon every now and again to sharpen up their cutting in skills.

The Edinburgh Trams have done a couple of dummy runs, they should be starting any year now.
 
The 4 lane motorways seem to be the worst. As there's no 'middle lane' any more it seems to confuse the middle lane hoggers, so they play safe and go in the 3rd lane just in case they need to overtake someone in the next 5 miles. Often leaving the 2 inside lanes empty apart from lorries.

I'd take the confusion of four lanes over the predominantly dual carriageway M8 any day of the week (it only connects Scotlands premier city with the capital). It's quite hilly in places and is therefore ideal for lorry drivers to overtake other lorries, uphill, whilst doing 0.3 of a mph faster.
 
Could I just point out that the things that stop you in a car are called "brakes" and not "breaks".
Thank you
;)

How careless of you Smiffy...You obviously haven't read/absorbed the thread properly

I did that several hundred posts ago - in Post 114!

I should hope so too. I'm just trying to imagine bits falling off/apart as cars approach a camera! Of course, the 'breaking' could be caused by a speeding driver not braking and colliding with them!:whistle:

And if 'Traffic Calming' measures aren't obeyed/negotiated 'breaking' is quite appropriate.

Past tense of 'brake' is, of course 'braked' not 'broke' which has yet another (colloquial) meaning! Don't you just love the English language!
 
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I never go over 30mph when that is the speed limit and am often significantly slower than that in the rural area where I live.

That said, I love going fast and break the speed limit every single day on any roads where the national speed limits apply. So do most people I ever get in the car with as a passenger actually.

Speed, acceleration, sweeping bends, extreme cornering forces with the radio blasting and so on are all really enjoyable, fantastic experiences. I really enjoy it. It is great. Same when I had sports bikes. 130mph+ was an absolutely brilliant feeling.

In fact, a significant proportion of the responses on this thread bear no relation to my experience of driving in England is like. I am regularly in traffic jams at 85mph or more for the majority of long journeys.

I am looking at what car to get next and the primary considerations will be does it have four seats and how fast is it? Vroooooom!
 
:thup: correctamundo - so they've got an old barracks building on top of a rock - so has Dumbarton :)

Premier for what though! Some things to be proud of, others not. There's a certain level where things work better and more conveniently as a big Toon rather than a City. For others a City works best!

Agree about the M8 though. wouldn't want to have to use that too often!
 
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