stevie_r
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And when people don't stick to that, what are you going to drop it to then?
Speeding in a thirty limit
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And when people don't stick to that, what are you going to drop it to then?
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USER1999
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I guess you were doing more than 42 then.
USER1999
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People will just buy citroens, or vans, or hire cars.
Foxholer
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Can't agree with that! What you are saying is that in order to get folk to only go 30, you need to reduce the speed limit to 20! That defies logic. What really needs to happen is to make the limit reasonable/appropriate and then police it!
I have seen figures perhaps not from England, that found the 'proper' limit under normal conditions, was between the 75th and 80th percentile of measured speeds.
G_Mulligan
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I was told after being stopped by the police it was 10% +1 so 33 in a 30. I would not trust this with a camera though. Usually only speed on a 70mph anyway. Think a steady 80-85 is perfectly safe and I leave good distances.
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20mph within residential areas is reasonable and appropriate - that's were 80% of collisions happen.
USER1999
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You would be surprised that police guidelines are to ping you at 78 then.
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Read up on the Hungerford crash
80-85 may feel safe with a good distance but it's far from it
If you had to break at 80 mph and a car broke at 70 mph - when he stopped you would collide at 71 mph and would need a further 80 metres to stop - another 70 metres for the extra 5 mph
I'll sit at around 72-75 mph if a clear road is ahead
kmdmr1
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Unfortunately was more than 42,was more than 52 (and I usually do watch my speed),
I had a clean licence for over 20 years,and last time I got caught it was for speeding in a 30,
Dont know how I got my speed and its something I did (Do now) focus on,
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kmdmr1
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Totally agree,deserved a ban (even though I never intended to speed)
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Yes sorry it wasn't aimed at you specifically - I believe they should bring in incremental bans - 30 day bans instead of 6 points for example or curfew on driving
But the better news is traffic collisions are on the decrease in the country
The biggest increase though is collisions due to people on mobile phones
Imurg
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Policing it is virtually impossible unless you have cameras every few yards - and that ain't gonna happen is it...
A few years ago the Powers that Be made a Song and Dance about the fact that over 50% of drivers now follows the 30 limit. 50%..?
Big Yuks on that. Drop the limit in Town to 20 and people will do 25. That reduces impact speeds, means fewer KSI's and saves a shed load of money
From my experience, very few stick to 30.
According to a SIDS, my car is doing 29 whilst showing 30
Anyone care to guess how many times I get overtaken each day in a 30 limit whilst doing 30....
Foxholer
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The above is twaddle without additional numbers - like the distance between the cars!
And it all depends on 'good distance'. The gaps that we are accustomed to are way too small.
If the road ahead and behind is clear, then 80-85 is quite possibly safe (if illegal), though there's also other catastrophic, however unlikely, events like punctures, stray animals, oncoming traffic and hazardous obstacles to consider. If it's not clear, slowing down to increase the gap make the new speed safe(r).
As a failed pedestrian, 20mph gets my vote.
But a big no to speed bumps. Ambulance drivers hate them with a passion.
Blue in Munich
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The answer to the original post can be found here;
http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/uniformed/2013/201305-uoba-joining-forces-safer-roads.pdf
3.5, 9.2 and 9.6 might be particularly relevant to the current debate.
http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/uniformed/2013/201305-uoba-joining-forces-safer-roads.pdf
3.5, 9.2 and 9.6 might be particularly relevant to the current debate.
Doon frae Troon
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On the A77 the other night a range rover was towing a small sheep trailer with no lights on. [so no brake lights].
I hung back and was overtaken by a numpty who then proceeded to drive at 60mph 12 feet behind the rear of the trailer with no brake lights lights.
Sometimes all you can do is shake your head.
I hung back and was overtaken by a numpty who then proceeded to drive at 60mph 12 feet behind the rear of the trailer with no brake lights lights.
Sometimes all you can do is shake your head.
Blue in Munich
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That would be a complete waste of time without major engineering measures to make it self-enforcing.
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Well it's not twaddle but I'm sure you know best - oh confirm it with the AA and Traffic Police if you wish because they have a great video to prove the above :thup:
Believe Thames Valley show it on the advance driver course and speed awareness course
