Southampton Not looking good ?

[HomerJSimpson]

I think there are better defenders out there than Vlaar and his price will get cranked up. As much as I've tried to be positive for Southampton and I believe what I've said but there must come a tipping point when two many first teamers going will be too big a gap to fill. I guess Koeman has had discussions with the powers that be and will decide accordingly but I can't see him jumping ship

 

[richart]

I think there are better defenders out there than Vlaar and his price will get cranked up. As much as I've tried to be positive for Southampton and I believe what I've said but there must come a tipping point when two many first teamers going will be too big a gap to fill. I guess Koeman has had discussions with the powers that be and will decide accordingly but I can't see him jumping ship

Good World Cup for Vlaar and his price gets hiked up. Seems to me that a lot of players play better for their Country than the do for their clubs. This observation obviously does not apply to English players.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Good World Cup for Vlaar and his price gets hiked up. Seems to me that a lot of players play better for their Country than the do for their clubs. This observation obviously does not apply to English players.

Always very dubious buying on the back of a good World Cup or tournament unless backed up by a good season before - we have certainly been stung before - Phil Babb !!

 

[Papas1982]

Good World Cup for Vlaar and his price gets hiked up. Seems to me that a lot of players play better for their Country than the do for their clubs. This observation obviously does not apply to English players.

We wouldn't be doing it just World Cup though. Koeman had him before I believe. So will be using that reasoning too. We may be stung a little on price, we may nit even get or go for him. But think it's early days to worry yet. Not sure any other club our size would have said no to any of the sales either, so have to see how is spent. It's all just guesswork atm.

 

[richart]

Always very dubious buying on the back of a good World Cup or tournament unless backed up by a good season before - we have certainly been stung before - Phil Babb !!

Kroos went to Real Madrid for a reported £20 million. World Cup winner, 24 years old. Now that is a good bit of business.

Agree though Phil, buying players on the back of a good World Cup is often an expensive mistake.

 

[richart]

We wouldn't be doing it just World Cup though. Koeman had him before I believe. So will be using that reasoning too. We may be stung a little on price, we may nit even get or go for him. But think it's early days to worry yet. Not sure any other club our size would have said no to any of the sales either, so have to see how is spent. It's all just guesswork atm.

Didn't think you were in for Vlaar according to Koeman. Just using him as an example of a players fee increasing on the back of a good World Cup.

 

[Papas1982]

Didn't think you were in for Vlaar according to Koeman. Just using him as an example of a players fee increasing on the back of a good World Cup.

Have seen koeman mention vlaar constantly, and also during World Cup was tweeting about him. I belive when actually pressed on vlaar he said he couldn't comment on layers not at the club and we would have a look at option if Lovren left.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Kroos went to Real Madrid for a reported £20 million. World Cup winner, 24 years old. Now that is a good bit of business.

Agree though Phil, buying players on the back of a good World Cup is often an expensive mistake.

Kroos was a great signing at that price. There is always a lot of activity after a WC with players getting moved about on the basis of their performances. Mind you if you want stung, look at Fulham and that Greek tragedy we bought. Sicknote for us and then makes a Lazarus like recovery to play for the Greeks in Brazil. Mind you he looked crap

 

[One Planer]

With getting on for £100M in player sales I'm sure they can afford 5 £20M rated players to fill the voids.

It's attracting them that'll prove tricky.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Kroos went to Real Madrid for a reported £20 million. World Cup winner, 24 years old. Now that is a good bit of business.

Agree though Phil, buying players on the back of a good World Cup is often an expensive mistake.

Kroos had one year left on his contract so his price was reduced as he wasn't signing a new one - it was a great buy at that price

 

[HomerJSimpson]

There will always be top players heading towards the end of contracts across Europe and would be available for a "Kroos like" price. However it's trying to entice them thats the issue and what a club may save on a transfer fee, usually has to shell out on wages. Arsenal and others have always had fairly rigid wage structures in place and I'm sure this has been a stumbling block when trying to get players to sign.

 

[SaintHacker]

There may be trouble ahead...
Word is coming out that Ms Liebherr wants her money back and wants rid of the club. they have been trying to find a buyer but have failed so she is basically asset stripping the club to lower the value overall. The plan is to make a couple of signings that will hopefully keep us in the prem, although thats a bloody dangerous tactic IMO, and then sell what is left at a lower price. There will be more departures though, that is almost guaranteed.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

There may be trouble ahead...
Word is coming out that Ms Liebherr wants her money back and wants rid of the club. they have been trying to find a buyer but have failed so she is basically asset stripping the club to lower the value overall. The plan is to make a couple of signings that will hopefully keep us in the prem, although thats a bloody dangerous tactic IMO, and then sell what is left at a lower price. There will be more departures though, that is almost guaranteed.

Heard about this a while back a mentioned on here - been the same rumblings for a while - seems strange as a the club well be more attractive with the players

 

[SaintHacker]

Heard about this a while back a mentioned on here - been the same rumblings for a while - seems strange as a the club well be more attractive with the players

This is what I can't get my head round, if you were trying to sell an engineering company would you sell off the machinery first? I'm guessing not.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is what I can't get my head round, if you were trying to sell an engineering company would you sell off the machinery first? I'm guessing not.

Maybe the lower price might make it more attractive and will give them a profit ?

 

[Papas1982]

This is what I can't get my head round, if you were trying to sell an engineering company would you sell off the machinery first? I'm guessing not.

I suppose it's easier for saints to hold premiership rivals to ransom n get higher fees than it is to get it from a buyer. Will be interesting to see though, as everyone seems to be towing the party line.

 

[Foxholer]

This is what I can't get my head round, if you were trying to sell an engineering company would you sell off the machinery first? I'm guessing not.

Football is not comparable to a 'normal' business!

Ask Lord Sugar!

How many of them made a profit over the last 3 years! Arsenal, Man U, Spurs (?) and Wolves seem to be the only consistent 'businesses', though a few, like West Ham, are in a 'recovery'.

 

[SaintHacker]

Don't know. That would make sense but I can't see how a weaker team, albeit at a lower price, would be easier to sell.
Another emerging theory is that Cortese put the players on ridiculous wages which are becoming unsustainable. We do know that his willingness to throw money around is one of the reasons why he was removed (he didn't resign, he was effectively sacked). When Markus bought the club his intention all along was to make it self-sustaining eventually. Perhaps the board are happy to let the guys on silly wages go and replace them with more players on more sensible contracts whilst continuing to grow the academy.
I hope this is the case rather than the former, one things for certain though, it never boring being a Saints fan!

 

[JCW]

Chelsea be doing that soon when they freeze the Russian money , he will then sack jose , get rid of the players then the club and move on , thats what they do when they want out , if they were staying then they keep the best players till the last year of thier contracts and resign them or sell them ...............for big money , must say its strange what is going on at Saints , but the owner wanting out makes sense ..................EYG

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Chelsea be doing that soon when they freeze the Russian money , he will then sack jose , get rid of the players then the club and move on , thats what they do when they want out , if they were staying then they keep the best players till the last year of thier contracts and resign them or sell them ...............for big money , must say its strange what is going on at Saints , but the owner wanting out makes sense ..................EYG

Why and when are they freezing the Russian money ?