Southampton Not looking good ?

[Deleted Member 1156]

As a Saints fan I'm actually quite excited at what is going on. I think we have got excellent money for the players we have sold and with in the region of £100m to spend if required, we can replace/strengthen the team to at least the level it was last season. We overachieved last season but if Koeman brings in the right players we will do well again this season.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Im not arguing them being good. But Boruc, fonte, yoshida, clyne, prowse, cork, wanyama all got substantial game time. Attack wise we have had turn to new players. But albeit on Swindon and bmouth, our link up play between Ramirez, pelle, tadic and prowse has looked very good to me (actually at the games).

They did no doubt and think they will keep you in the prem but those players aren't the same as what's left - any team who loses so much will be at risk to struggle - we are at risk and we have just lost one.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

What's being said and by who ?

What do you expect in regards last laugh ? Improvement on the 8th last season ?

Any team that loses potentially 6/7 first team regulars is in danger of struggling regardless of who they buy or what youth is waiting - even more so with a new unproven prem manager - could just as easily go very wrong ( hope not )

I never said you said they would replicate or beat 8th ? I asked the question in regards last laugh comment ? Trolling comment is way out of order.

Was actually interested in what these people were saying hence why I asked who and what they were saying - do you have any links

As a Saints fan I'm actually quite excited at what is going on. I think we have got excellent money for the players we have sold and with in the region of £100m to spend if required, we can replace/strengthen the team to at least the level it was last season. We overachieved last season but if Koeman brings in the right players we will do well again this season.

I think you'll be fine. Plenty of poorer sides in the PL. With cash to spend on a few older heads to supplement the up and coming and I think you'll shock a few people. I don't think 8th is achievable but mid table safety achieved early on

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do the research. It's out there. Another thread going round in circles with you counter arguing. No it isn't debating. I'm out as again it detracts what others may have to add

I'm not arguing I'm just asking for the links as you have read them because I have had a search and can't find what you are talking about ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As a Saints fan I'm actually quite excited at what is going on. I think we have got excellent money for the players we have sold and with in the region of £100m to spend if required, we can replace/strengthen the team to at least the level it was last season. We overachieved last season but if Koeman brings in the right players we will do well again this season.

Any in the pipeline at the moment - not really heard many snippets bar a few from Feyenoord ?

 

[Papas1982]

Any in the pipeline at the moment - not really heard many snippets bar a few from Feyenoord ?

Forster at Celtic is my main hope. Boruc over course of season won us a lot more than he cost us, but is erratic and near the end of his career. Strong rumours of vlaar. I'd be happy with that as think he's down well in a poor villa team.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Forster at Celtic is my main hope. Boruc over course of season won us a lot more than he cost us, but is erratic and near the end of his career. Strong rumours of vlaar. I'd be happy with that as think he's down well in a poor villa team.

He is very good GK - think it won't be long until he is number 1 for England - would prefer Forster over Mignolet

Not sure about Vlaar - very slow on the turn and makes lots of clumsy mistakes but is a very good organiser

 

[Papas1982]

He is very good GK - think it won't be long until he is number 1 for England - would prefer Forster over Mignolet

Not sure about Vlaar - very slow on the turn and makes lots of clumsy mistakes but is a very good organiser

Id see Forster as a typical saints signing tbh. Pay him pretty well. Year or two in shop window and off the Liverpool 😃

fonte and yoshida are relatively quick for us so vlaar wouldn't need to be as such. Not as good as Lovren but an adequate replacement with all important prem experience.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Id see Forster as a typical saints signing tbh. Pay him pretty well. Year or two in shop window and off the Liverpool 😃

fonte and yoshida are relatively quick for us so vlaar wouldn't need to be as such. Not as good as Lovren but an adequate replacement with all important prem experience.

No idea about Yoshida - was he the guy that Lovren replaced ?

 

[richart]

Spurs had £100 million to spend last season, and bought one decent player, and a load old old rubbish. Clubs know you have money so inflate their prices. It is also difficult to attract top players to a club when you are not in Europe. Selling all your top players, doesn't give new players much encouragement on how the club is going forward.

I think Southampton will struggle. New players take time to bed in, and if they get a bad start to the season, more players could leave. What happens if they get some injuries ? Rodriquez may take time to recover from his injury. I can't remember any Premiership team losing so many players in one go, and their manger.

We finished 8th in 2006/7. Sold one player, Sidwell, had a few injuries and got relegated next season.

Sad to see a good team that has been built up over a few years torn apart.

 

[Papas1982]

No idea about Yoshida - was he the guy that Lovren replaced ?

Lovren bascially became no1. Fonte and yoshida would swap with a lot of regularity depending on opponents. Fonte grabbed more headlines as he scored a few times.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

What's being said and by who ?

What do you expect in regards last laugh ? Improvement on the 8th last season ?

Any team that loses potentially 6/7 first team regulars is in danger of struggling regardless of who they buy or what youth is waiting - even more so with a new unproven prem manager - could just as easily go very wrong ( hope not )

I never said you said they would replicate or beat 8th ? I asked the question in regards last laugh comment ? Trolling comment is way out of order.

Was actually interested in what these people were saying hence why I asked who and what they were saying - do you have any links

Spurs had £100 million to spend last season, and bought one decent player, and a load old old rubbish. Clubs know you have money so inflate their prices. It is also difficult to attract top players to a club when you are not in Europe. Selling all your top players, doesn't give new players much encouragement on how the club is going forward.

I think Southampton will struggle. New players take time to bed in, and if they get a bad start to the season, more players could leave. What happens if they get some injuries ? Rodriquez may take time to recover from his injury. I can't remember any Premiership team losing so many players in one go, and their manger.

We finished 8th in 2006/7. Sold one player, Sidwell, had a few injuries and got relegated next season.

Sad to see a good team that has been built up over a few years torn apart.

Schneiderlin and Rodriguez looking to join Spurs so the problems continue. I agree that other clubs, certainly PL teams will jack the prices up so the likes of Vlaar will be over the odds. I think Koeman will use his European knowledge to eek some bargains and maybe splash a little OTT if he needs a player for a certain role/

 

[Papas1982]

Spurs had £100 million to spend last season, and bought one decent player, and a load old old rubbish. Clubs know you have money so inflate their prices. It is also difficult to attract top players to a club when you are not in Europe. Selling all your top players, doesn't give new players much encouragement on how the club is going forward.

I think Southampton will struggle. New players take time to bed in, and if they get a bad start to the season, more players could leave. What happens if they get some injuries ? Rodriquez may take time to recover from his injury. I can't remember any Premiership team losing so many players in one go, and their manger.

We finished 8th in 2006/7. Sold one player, Sidwell, had a few injuries and got relegated next season.

Sad to see a good team that has been built up over a few years torn apart.

i think Reading finishing 8th was more an over achievement than ours in all honesty. We've a squad built up over a lot of time. Spurs also spent their £100m on many players trying to replace a star. We'll be looking to dpstrenthen all areas so not just hoping for one to pain out. Personally I think the board have earned a chance for our support. Of come august we've bought nobody then the terraces will turn. But no manager would of persuaded those players to stay. Cl footy and wages are well above our level.

We werent in Europe when we signed Osvaldo, Lovren, Wanyama or Ramirez either. I'm under no illusions we will sign megastars. But I also think we're an attractive proposition when you consider the route it will show players the could follow if they perform well. We also have one of the best youth and training facilities in the country as well as being Southern, which with smaller clubs, being near the bright lights of London is a bonus.

Only time will tell. But I would be amazed to see us relegated purely because the starting 11 we could field now excluding bith Rodriguez and schneiderlein is IMO still much better than some of the competition.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Lovren bascially became no1. Fonte and yoshida would swap with a lot of regularity depending on opponents. Fonte grabbed more headlines as he scored a few times.

Yoshida started 7 games last season - Fonte 27 ?

 

[Papas1982]

Yoshida started 7 games last season - Fonte 27 ?

Yoshida got injured in October I belive and was out til after Xmas. When they were both fit they fonte was probably first choice, but his place wasn't cemented. Each week it was neither a shock or surprise to see one of the two start.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yoshida got injured in October I belive and was out til after Xmas. When they were both fit they fonte was probably first choice, but his place wasn't cemented. Each week it was neither a shock or surprise to see one of the two start.

So ideally you are looking to get a replacement for Lovren - hence Vlaar as Yoshida is your back up ?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Pretty confident Saints will finish 8-12th next season, as long as no more than 1 more player goes and they spend even half of what they have recouped in sales.

There is enough dross in the prem, and think as long as they keep the same shape and ethos will be ok. If Koeman brings in a totally new ethos, they may struggle.

I can see the likes of Chelsea and City, or even some of the European giants maybe giving them some very good fringe or youth players to use. The same way Deulofeu and Lukaku were used successfully by Everton.

 

[richart]

Clyne is the next one rumoured to be off. Cork and Fonte not signed new contracts.

I wonder if Koeman was told all the players would be sold ? Will he hang around ?

 

[Papas1982]

So ideally you are looking to get a replacement for Lovren - hence Vlaar as Yoshida is your back up ?

I'd say I'd settle for vlaar as first choice. Nit fussed either way with fonte or yoshida partnering. Fonte grabbed headlines for goals scored last season. But previous year when both played as a partnership I thought yoshida was better.

 

[Papas1982]

Clyne is the next one rumoured to be off. Cork and Fonte not signed new contracts.

I wonder if Koeman was told all the players would be sold ? Will he hang around ?

Not seen anything on any of that. Scare mongering IMO. We've rejected bids for fonte as come from Cardiff and don't see many sizeable offers coming for cork or clyne either. It seems £15m plus gets our attention as it would for any club of our stature.