lensouth
Newbie
can a club award small cash prizes ie;£10/ £20.in weekly comps?
small cash prizes
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atticusfinch
Challenge Tour Pro
Assume you mean without losing amateur status. See amateur rule 3-2. http://www.randa.org/Amateur-Status/MainRules/3-Prizes/SubRules/2-Prize-Limits
An amateur golfer
must not accept a prize ...in excess of £500...in any one competition or series of competitions.
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rulie
Head Pro
The reference you provided, Rule 3-2, talks about a the value of a prize being limited to 500 pounds, not cash/money up to that limit. Rule 3-1 is applicable - "An amateur golfer must not play golf for prize money or its equivalent in a match, competition or exhibition." This says that cash prizes are forbidden for amateurs, regardless of the amount.
The answer for the original poster is no, cash prizes are not permitted. However, gift certificates are ok.
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KenL
Tour Rookie
Does every medal in the land not pay cash prizes?
At my club you pay an entry fee and an optional sweep. Each of these elements pay an amount of cash to the top placed players in different categories.
At my club you pay an entry fee and an optional sweep. Each of these elements pay an amount of cash to the top placed players in different categories.
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
You shouldn't pay cash prizes I believe - we pay out in vouchers
No, our weekly comps and two's pot all become monetary credits in my Pro shop account to spend, they have never been cash at any club I've been a member at, however, I've played in quite a few winter series and travelling competitions like Tee Tours, Finch etc and they all pay out in a mixture of Pro vouchers and cash!?
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Deleted member 18588
Guest
Just to clarify as I don't know about others but TeeTours prizes are not in cash form.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
A sweep is not a prize.....
rulefan
Tour Winner
Sweepstakes are OK if they meet certain criteria. They are not considered prizes but gambling.
See Rule 7-2 Decision 7-2/2
http://www.randa.org/Amateur-Status...ntrary-to-the-Purpose-and-Spirit-of-the-Rules
and also
http://www.randa.org/Amateur-Status/Appendices/Appendix-VI-Gambling/Appendix-Policy-on-Gambling
As I clearly stated, I've played in a lot of these and have been paid out in a mixture of vouchers & cash, the cash is the optional sweep and as has now been quantified is actually gambling, so not a cash prize per se, but my original statement is factual, I have been paid out in a mixture of vouchers, alcohol and cash.
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guest100718
Guest
Last club was all cash for all comps. No big deal. New club is credit on your card
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Deleted member 18588
Guest
And as I clearly stated my comment referred solely to TeeTours events.
Jeez, talk about being argumentative, do you support Liverpool also?
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Deleted member 18588
Guest
My only concern was that your remark suggested that TeeTours arranged events that would breach the R&A's Rules on Amateur Status, which would be the case if cash prizes were awarded.
As for supporting Liverpool!!!!!!!!!?????
But it's now been quantified that cash in a sweep is not a prize, it's gambling and separate, hence I have had a mixture of cash & vouchers along with other (bottles) prizes, so no breach, so get back in yer box..:smirk:
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Deleted member 18588
Guest
At this year's TeeTours events?
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
I'm confused now. What's the difference between a "sweepstake" and an "entry fee"? Having read the definition of sweepstake in RoAS decision 7-2/2, it sounds a lot like an entry fee to me?
But as matter of interest, at ours, winning in Pro-shop comps gets a credit on your account, but club organised comps get you a few pound notes in an envelope? Does this mean I'm no longer an amateur? (Or wouldn't be, had I actually won anything)
But as matter of interest, at ours, winning in Pro-shop comps gets a credit on your account, but club organised comps get you a few pound notes in an envelope? Does this mean I'm no longer an amateur? (Or wouldn't be, had I actually won anything)
upsidedown
Tour Winner
rulefan
Tour Winner
An entry fee is compulsory and is retained by the club. A sweepstake is optional and all the proceeds are paid out.
There could be a third optional element; a 2s club, another sweepstake.
Many clubs just wrap them all up in one price and assume entrants will simply unknowingly accept their entry into the optional sweeps without objection.
I would say so but I won't tell anyone.
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Deleted member 18588
Guest
Indeed not but a very nice bottle of Red or 3 bottles of fine pale ale for a two
True, the red drinks very nicely whilst still keeping us the right side of the R&A.
