Slow Play - Solutions

I'm going to contact my club later and ask the question. I think for the likes of me and my regular partners it would make life a lot easier and quicker. With a SC it takes 10 seconds to see the yardage of flick down the screen to see the distance to hazards etc which can be done as the others play.
Homer - my club has a local rule that isn't specific enough for me. Measuring devices are allowed, but where they have the ability to also gather data such as temperature or slope for example they aren't allowed, even if this feature is not used . So it leaves me wondering whether or not to use my handheld GPS on which I have marked all greens, because it will measure things such as rate of climb. I've decided sod it, and I'm going to!
 
One of my watches has a built in barometer. I obviously can't use it to play golf in, as it measures climate conditions, but I have often wondered what actual advantage this would give, such that I would be cheating using it. Ok, the ball travels further through less dense air, so I could club down above say 100mb, but to know this sort of data would take ages of measuring distances at different air pressures, and you still have to factor in elevation, run out and wind speed.

Given the choice between a gps, and a barometer, I would chose the gps, so it seems odd that barometers are illegal in golf, as they really don't provide much useful info, apart from knowing if it is likely to rain.

I know a gps is a glorified yardage chart, and so isn't cheating, but why is a barometer?
 
I'm going to contact my club later and ask the question. I think for the likes of me and my regular partners it would make life a lot easier and quicker. With a SC it takes 10 seconds to see the yardage of flick down the screen to see the distance to hazards etc which can be done as the others play.
Homer - my club has a local rule that isn't specific enough for me. Measuring devices are allowed, but where they have the ability to also gather data such as temperature or slope for example they aren't allowed, even if this feature is not used . So it leaves me wondering whether or not to use my handheld GPS on which I have marked all greens, because it will measure things such as rate of climb. I've decided sod it, and I'm going to!

That because that is what is allowed - what GPS do you have that measures 'rate of climb' anyway and for what purpouse do you use it?
 
I wonder how long it will be until we have a golf GPS watch!!

Wilson do one under the Sunto brsnd or something like that.....have done for a while now....

Not seen that... Its a bit of a jump up from my Shock-Timex with golf-scorer

Suunto do a GPS watch - not golf oriented - and a Wilson Golf stats and swing analyser watch, but at £195 you're better off with a golf GPS (which should also be capable of giving the time).
 
I have to say that I think that the influence of professionals does shine through. As a junior, myself and a few friends caddied for some Pro's at a tournament, and I remember that when we played our next round, one guy in particular spent ages on every shot, walking up the the green to view the pin position, pacing our exact yardages for every shot etc etc, and it added a significant time onto our rounds. I guess a lot of the pacing about would be removed with the use of a GPS system, but I think that the pace, and style, of Pro's play does have an influence, especially on the younger players
 
It's all very well having the info on distance to the green or bunker or layup area, but we need to know how far we can hit the ball with each club. If we don't know that, then it's not really going to speed up play.
 
DCB

The SC allows you to measure shots. I went ot the practice ground in summer and about 6 weeks ago to measure how far I hit each club and get and average distance. I picked two days with similar wind conditions and took readings down and into the wind. I now have a pretty accurate measure of how far I can hit and so if SC says 133 into the wind it is a 7, still day 8 and down wind a 3/4 8
 
Homer - my club has a local rule that isn't specific enough for me. Measuring devices are allowed, but where they have the ability to also gather data such as temperature or slope for example they aren't allowed, even if this feature is not used . So it leaves me wondering whether or not to use my handheld GPS on which I have marked all greens, because it will measure things such as rate of climb. I've decided sod it, and I'm going to!

That because that is what is allowed - what GPS do you have that measures 'rate of climb' anyway and for what purpouse do you use it?

I have a hand held Garmin that I bought several years ago for walking, cycling and ski-ing. Rate of climb can be interesting on the slopes, but not really for golf. I have marked and and labelled the tees and greens on my home course, and done some checking out like Homer of distances on clubs. I use it only occasionally now in friendlies as I know the course well. People usually want to know how long their drives are. :)

Somebody else's post made me think that capability to check altitude might be a problem, but it only tells me what height I am at now, not the altitude of my target or any differentials - unless I walk all the way there... ;)

As per the barometric posting - I know rules is rules, but jeez.
 
Homer,

I've just picked up a SC2.5 and am looking forward to getting to grips with it over the winter at my own course. What I was aluding to in my post was the fact that a lot of golfers do not know what club to hit for a certain distance. Given that the SC can give you details on the depth of the green etc, are we savvy enough to realise that the difference between the front of the green and the back is two clubs ?

Thats going to be a bit of an eye opener for a lot of people I think.

I learned my distances about 15 years ago at the range at Inverclyde. Paced off and measured every club in the bag. I'm still able to use that info to good effect nowadays. I have also over the years worked out the effect a slope will have on my distance. At my home club there are some holes that can be a club longer because of the rise to the green.

Looking forward to getting out on the course and finding out just how I play the course. This might make me rethink strategy on some holes. Loking at last seasons info on SS2 I certainly have room for improvement !
 
It's all very well having the info on distance to the green or bunker or layup area, but we need to know how far we can hit the ball with each club. If we don't know that, then it's not really going to speed up play.

Doesn't everyone have an idea of how far they hit the ball? Or if they don't, does it matter?

You know you can hit a 7i 150 or if you don't know, then at least you think you can hit it 150. So if the gps says 150 then you pick the 7i. Them who know correctly are on the green after the shot, them who don't are 20 yards short - but neither has spent much time deciding how far away the green is and then agonising over which club to use.
 
Yes, but after being short 10 times from 150, unless they are dead thick, they will eventually work out that when the m/c says 150, it isn't a 7i. Normally if people are short, they just blame the 150 yard post as being wrong. With a gps, you can't use this excuse any more.
 
GPS? I'm a little old fashioned in that working out your yardages yourself is all part of the battle, and does not need to be time consuming.

As for water in bunkers, I don't think the sand itself should be GUR, but when you take a drop from standing water and the ball plugs in the porridge you should be able to roll it one turn.
 
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