Ok I asked a genuine question and was hoping for a decent debate as I said it wasn’t aimed at you it was a question for the forum as a whole. But instead “I don’t care what the Pro’s do” seems a little bit spoilt child like in its answer.
Permitting DMD in the Rules did not speed up play. Going further and permitting the slope function will not speed up play. My two pence worth.I say allow it. The players still need to hit the distance in the conditions they’re playing, most club golfers are not going to be accurate enough to gain enough of an advantage from leaving it on.
If you play your home course what’s the difference it will have been used in numerous rounds so that you know the slope anyway. Caddies will walk a course and measure everything and every angle to the Nth degree. You’ve only got to listen during the events they’re mic’d up and you can hear the calculations and seeing how thick their yardage books are with green complexes drawn out etc. so what real advantage is the average or even good club golfers really gaining that isn’t already in play in the pro game. It’s just a bit quicker to pull the Range finder, zap the target and know it’s playing 140yds with an uphill slope of 10yds so you hit the club that goes 150!
It’s a lot better and faster than someone who has turned slope off , pulling it going oh it’s 140, and then taking an age to deliberate what to hit as they try to figure out what they need on top, the. Pulling the wrong club coming up short and repeating the process!
P.S the bloke who pulled the “Btw you’ve had it on for 6 holes so I’m claiming them all” is an absolute! And should be suitably punished for trying to cheat the rules to his advantage but has instead cheated someone out of 6holes which he’s not entitled to! That’s a bigger crime than the poor bloke who left slope on and gained nothing!
The pro game is not the game I play. That’s all I was saying. What they can and can’t do is for that game and I never see any great need for read-across from it. Much of the game of golf is about managing uncertainty in the mind, I prefer to keep technology away from removing uncertainty.Ok I asked a genuine question and was hoping for a decent debate as I said it wasn’t aimed at you it was a question for the forum as a whole. But instead “I don’t care what the Pro’s do” seems a little bit spoilt child like in its answer.
Plus the editing of not everyone can afford one is no different to not everyone can afford the latest driver that’s adds 10yards to their game but gains an advantage but seems that’s ok! But in fact everyone can have one if they choose to and perhaps we should remove course planners as well them because not everyone buys one
I apologise if you took my question personally as I stated it was for open discussion not aimed at you as you’d posed an interesting point. But clearly you’ve taken it the wrong way hence the odd response! Hope you’re well and enjoy your day I won’t press for an answer I was just interested in people’s thoughts as to where the advantages are and where any judgment has been removed
Good to hearThe pro game is not the game I play. That’s all I was saying. What they can and can’t do is for that game and I never see any great need for read-across from it.
And no probs…I didn’t take anything personally.
All fair points and take them on board and appreciate the response. So does that mean it shouldn’t be allowed though as would it be classed as outside advice you still have to make a judgement on and is that any different to having a caddy. It’s certainly an interesting debate on both sides.
But if challenged by someone wanting to check your rangefinder, would you be easily able to turn the slope (if active) off, in the process of handing it over?
If you’d ask to see if my slope was on I could literally flick it off without you noticing as I handed you it, it’s that simple and quick to do on mine. Likewise if I had it on when I wasn’t supposed to , you’d never notice it was on as the hand covers it when measuring. Could easily be flicked on and off whilst in the hand without anyone seeing anything.But if challenged by someone wanting to check your rangefinder, would you be easily able to turn the slope (if active) off, in the process of handing it over?
I only ask because the other day I was playing a practise round and realised that slope had been inadvertently turned on, and it took me all of three minutes to figure out how to deactivate it.
To be honest..yes I could.But if challenged by someone wanting to check your rangefinder, would you be easily able to turn the slope (if active) off, in the process of handing it over?
I only ask because the other day I was playing a practise round and realised that slope had been inadvertently turned on, and it took me all of three minutes to figure out how to deactivate it.
Ahh...my Bushnell has no such luxury...it requires a long press of the button whilst it then cycles through a number of combinations of yards/meters, slope on/off, vibration assist on/off and several permutations thereof...would be damned obvious that I was trying to hide something.
I think it would also be true that an elite player would be able to judge the changes in elevation better without using the slope function.
Note the limitation in the Rules regarding green-reading materials. The same principles will ultimately apply.Out of interest I’m genuinely intrigued to hear the answer not from just yourself but others to, but purely as you’ve posed the point!
How is it removing the players judgement according to experience and trajectory of shot, When A) they still have to execute a shot that goes the right distance, B) still have to choose what sort of shot and trajectory to play and C) it’s already at use in the Pro game where every single slope , distance and even green complex is measured and detail in their notes they’re allowed to use.
Judgement still required to do all those things with the data available. As I said not personal or seeking clarity just from yourself it’s a general question aimed at everyone including myself, you just happened to highlight it a succinct manner
