Slicing with Driver

[Deleted member 21784]

I think my first reply to this thread was the most correct

Impossible to tell without seeing

A lesson with a pro the best way lol

 

[bobmac]

I think my first reply to this thread was the most correct

Impossible to tell without seeing

A lesson with a pro the best way lol

I don't agree.
A few questions answered honestly will give me enough information to help the person with his/her problem.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Ah, but the question was asked in the ''lounge'' so everyone feels they can chip in and help.

That's great and most golfers I've met are always willing to help anyone who asks but as you say, it's hard to know who to listen to.
Without a video of the swing it's always a bit tricky to know exactly what's going on which is why I always ask some questions to get an idea of what the problem is.
It's normally either swingpath, clubface, weight transfer or grip or a combination or all four.

Probably best at times if people let the experts help before they help out, by all means give support, but does get confusing when threads are taken off track, especially when the advice could help many.

All in my opinion of course :thup:

 

[Three]

Anyone who needs a video doesn't understand ball flight.

Assuming a centre strike, only the path and face aim influence the ball flight. The OP has described his ball flight, if the ball starts straight(ish) and slices there is only one option, ie path out to in and face open to the path.

A video will confirm that but as said by many, only an expert standing in front of him will see the whole picture.

 

[Foxholer]

...The OP has described his ball flight, if the ball starts straight(ish) and slices there is only one option, ie path out to in and face open to the path.
...

:clap:

Though that still reeks of 'old laws'!

As 'New Laws' have face orientation (to path of course) as the dominant (85%+) influence of initial direction, I believe it's better to start with face (relative to path) direction first.

It's probably a hangover from the 'Old Laws' 'swing path is dominant' approach that has prevented the above.

 

[ruff-driver]

It's quite easy to seperate the wheat from the chaff, 2 posters are Pro's,

Homer & who else ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Homer & who else ?

He's worth 2 :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I don't agree.
A few questions answered honestly will give me enough information to help the person with his/her problem.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier with a video and easier to then explain to the poster what he/ she is doing

Picture paints a 1000 words

A video paints 1 million.

 

[bobmac]

:clap:



As 'New Laws' have face orientation (to path of course) as the dominant (85%+) influence of initial direction, I believe it's better to start with face (relative to path) direction first.

Would you say that 85% figure would change or remain constant as the speed of the club increases?

 

[Three]

:clap:

Though that still reeks of 'old laws'!

As 'New Laws' have face orientation (to path of course) as the dominant (85%+) influence of initial direction, I believe it's better to start with face (relative to path) direction first.

It's probably a hangover from the 'Old Laws' 'swing path is dominant' approach that has prevented the above.

SERIOUSLY, what are you trying to prove?

This isn't an exact statistical analysis, it's telling the OP that the reason his ball slices is because the face is pointing to the right of the path.

Yes, well done, you are aware that the face aim has the biggest influence in initial starting direction, but at the moment the only relevance is that he knows that the face is open - the exact amount is irrelevant.

 

[bobmac]

Wouldn't it be a lot easier with a video and easier to then explain to the poster what he/ she is doing

Picture paints a 1000 words

A video paints 1 million.

Not really.
As Three says, its all about the ball flight.
A few questions would tell a pro what the problem is, watching a video would only confirm the problem

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Not really.
As Three says, its all about the ball flight.
A few questions would tell a pro what the problem is, watching a video would only confirm the problem

Whilst the ball flight is key a video could show if he is too far away from ball reaching for it (a 4 handicapper picked up on that for me) or stance too wide

Or grip problems causing the weak face

Mine was grip problems mostly , stronger grip now

 

[Foreplay]

Well that got a bit lively. Thanks guys for all the advice 👍

 

[Foxholer]

Would you say that 85% figure would change or remain constant as the speed of the club increases?

Yes!

 

[bobmac]

To the OP
In answer to your question.....
If the ball starts fairly straight then your clubface will be pointing fairly straight at impact.
If the ball is curling to the right then your swingpath must be moving hard left at impact creating the sidespin to the right.
So try and improve the swingpath and check your grip isnt weak

 

[Foxholer]

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This isn't an exact statistical analysis, it's telling the OP that the reason his ball slices is because the face is pointing to the right of the path.
...

:clap:

PS: Not for a Leftie!!

 

[Slime]

Anyone who needs a video doesn't understand ball flight.

Assuming a centre strike, only the path and face aim influence the ball flight. The OP has described his ball flight, if the ball starts straight(ish) and slices there is only one option, ie path out to in and face open to the path.

A video will confirm that but as said by many, only an expert standing in front of him will see the whole picture.

From my understanding, that is incorrect!!
If a ball starts straight(ish) and curls to the right it means that the clubface must be square(ish) to target but with an out to in swingpath causing the slice spin.

 

[Three]

From my understanding, that is incorrect!!
If a ball starts straight(ish) and curls to the right it means that the clubface must be square(ish) to target but with an out to in swingpath causing the slice spin.

Holy smoke, someone give me a wall to bang my head against......

Yes, if the ball starts towards the target, the face may possibly be facing reasonably close to the target.

I said that the path is out to in and the face is open to that path. I did not specify where the face would be facing in relation to the target. The two are not exclusive of each other.

Actually, if we want to be really specific, if the path is out to in and the ball starts AT the target, the face will be open to the path AND the target.

 

[Soft hands]

Bloody hell yes where the face is aiming at impact controls the starting line but if the ball is slicing right it is open to the path.

Nothing @Three said was wrong or confusing.

 

[Foxholer]

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Actually, if we want to be really specific, if the path is out to in and the ball starts AT the target, the face will be open to the path AND the target.

Indeed! That's the 15% contribution of 'path' to the starting line!