Slicing with Driver

[Slime]

Holy smoke, someone give me a wall to bang my head against......

Yes, if the ball starts towards the target, the face may possibly be facing reasonably close to the target.

I said that the path is out to in and the face is open to that path. I did not specify where the face would be facing in relation to the target. The two are not exclusive of each other.

Actually, if we want to be really specific, if the path is out to in and the ball starts AT the target, the face will be open to the path AND the target.

All I'm saying is, as far as I am aware, if the ball starts AT the target, surely the clubface is square to the target line and open to swing path. Its the out to in swing path that causes the ball to slice.


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[Three]

All I'm saying is, as far as I am aware, if the ball starts AT the target, surely the clubface is square to the target line and open to swing path. Its the out to in swing path that causes the ball to slice.


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You are aware incorrectly.
I'm in the pub, someone else tell me him please.

 

[Soft hands]

If your face is open to your path the ball will curve left to right, where your face is pointing at impact determines the start line.

You can have an out to in path and hit straight pulls, pull hooks and you can swing in to out and still hit push fades/slices if your face is open to path, it will just start right and go even further right.

 

[Slime]

If your face is open to your path the ball will curve left to right, where your face is pointing at impact determines the start line.

You can have an out to in path and hit straight pulls, pull hooks and you can swing in to out and still hit push fades/slices if your face is open to path, it will just start right and go even further right.

Thank you, please tell Three.

 

[Three]

If your face is open to your path the ball will curve left to right, where your face is pointing at impact determines the start line.

You can have an out to in path and hit straight pulls, pull hooks and you can swing in to out and still hit push fades/slices if your face is open to path, it will just start right and go even further right.

Incorrect.
Please tell Slime.

 

[Three]

Right then.

The starting direction and curvature are influenced by the face aim and club path at impact.

The starting direction is a mix of the two, with the face aim being the biggest factor. The ball will start closer to the face aim than the direction of the path, but not EXACTLY where the face is aiming.

The relationship between the face aim and the path will determine the curve.

For a ball to start exactly at the target with an out to in path, the face MUST be aiming slightly right of the target. If the face was aiming exactly at the target and the path was going left, the ball would start left, albeit closer to the face aim than the path.

 

[Slime]

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[Three]

Fixed that for you :thup:.

You didn't fix anything.
You shouldn't mis quote me.
I don't care who wrote that, it was not specific enough for this pedantic conversation , I've clarified above.

 

[bobmac]

If the clubface is straight and the path is straight, the ball will go straight (assuming a centred hit)
If the clubface is straight and the path is left, the ball will start a little left.

 

[Slime]

You didn't fix anything.
You shouldn't mis quote me.
I don't care who wrote that, it was not specific enough for this pedantic conversation , I've clarified above.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, I'm just trying to clarify the situation.
You think one thing, I think something different.
Let's just leave it at that.

 

[Three]

You think one thing, I think something different.
Let's just leave it at that.

You're having a laugh????????

I've told you exactly what the facts are, Bob has also stated the same thing.

You chose to come and say that I was talking rubbish, so lets see some facts to support your argument.

And by the way, changing someone's screen name and publishing their real name and job title is absolutely bang out of order.

 

[hovis]

butch marmon was only saying last night that club face is responsible for initial direction and path is responsible for curvature.

anyone who thinks different should try putting with the club face open but with a straight path and see how far you miss. then, hit some putts with a square face but massive out to in. they still go relatively straight

 

[Slime]

You're having a laugh????????

I've told you exactly what the facts are, Bob has also stated the same thing.

You chose to come and say that I was talking rubbish, so lets see some facts to support your argument.

And by the way, changing someone's screen name and publishing their real name and job title is absolutely bang out of order.

At no point have I said you were talking rubbish, or show evidence to support your accusation ............ oh no, you can't, can you?

I posted a video to support my argument, although I doubt you watched it.

What the hell are you on about? I merely changed my name to that of the PGA certified professional who made the video, that I don't think you bothered to watch, as he obviously doesn't understand the ball flight laws either.

 

[Three]

butch marmon was only saying last night that club face is responsible for initial direction and path is responsible for curvature.

anyone who thinks different should try putting with the club face open but with a straight path and see how far you miss. then, hit some putts with a square face but massive out to in. they still go relatively straight

That's a generalisation that is fine in commentary. Nobody is arguing with that generalisation, but the ball will start CLOSER to the face aim, not EXACTLY on the face aim.

 

[Three]

At no point have I said you were talking rubbish, or show evidence to support your accusation ............ oh no, you can't, can you?

I posted a video to support my argument, although I doubt you watched it.

What the hell are you on about? I merely changed my name to that of the PGA certified professional who made the video, that I don't think you bothered to watch, as he obviously doesn't understand the ball flight laws either.

You said I was incorrect, aka talking rubbish.

Sorry I mistook the name of the guy in the video to the name of the poster, my mistake.

 

[Slime]

I never said you were incorrect, merely that I'd been lead to believe something slightly different .................... and I still do.
Have you watched the video?

Oh, apology accepted :thup:.

 

[TomTom]

Have you tried teeing it lower?

 

[Three]

From my understanding, that is incorrect!!

I never said you were incorrect

Mate, I'm having a beer, err several beers, with a the lads.... 🍺🍺

Have a nice day. ☺

 

[Slime]

Mate, I'm having a beer, err several beers, with a the lads.... 

Have a nice day. ☺

Do me a favour ...................... have one for me, mate :cheers:.

 

[Three]

Do me a favour ...................... have one for me, mate :cheers:.

Cheers. Sorry it's Carlsberg 😃