Slicing with Driver

[garyinderry]

Just learn to hit "less slice".

Sure it would be nice to play that 2 yard push draw but in reality people end up hitting snap hooks and pushes.


Ive gone back to hitting a gentle fade and sometimes bigger slice but boy is it repeatable.


Its true, the fade can be reasoned with.

 

[Three]

Unfortunately, its findings weren't adopted my many US coaches (almost certainly the NIH syndrome!)- until Trackman/Flightscope numbers confirmed and (especially Trackman - in 2009) published their 'findings'!

I don't know when The PGA (of GB&I) started using the findings of Cochran and Stobbs in their training, but it was certainly before the mid 2000's.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

If this turns into a pedant contest between Foxy & Three, My money is on Foxy

 

[Foxholer]

Now I'm driving better I expect my handicap to fall because I've been scoring 30 ish points each round this season.. despite very poor driving so I been scrambling well

I mean one hole drive 40 yards into trees.. 7 iron out to fairway

Approach just short.. chip next to hole and 1 putt bogey

Scrambling well for me

So if I can drive straight then I can least go for more pars

Last round I hit 1 pars on the par 4s and 5s

So out of 14 holes I had 7 par putts missed 6 which isn't great but I got myself in the position to attempt which is new

The 'beauty' (or curse!) of Golf is that as your driving improves, your scrambling is likely to deteriorate, because you won't need to do it so often and will lose your 'feel' for it! More important than ever to practice that part of the game!

@OP. apologies for the OT stuff!

The Driver is the longest and least lofted club and you are probably swing that as hard as you are able more often than any other. So the results of any swing fault will show up most too!

Lessons (and proper practice) are certainly the best way to a permanent solution!

 

[bobmac]

If this turns into a pedant contest between Foxy & Three, My money is on Foxy

I'm staying out of it :ears:

 

[Three]

As you should. You're trying to hit the ball as far as possible with the driver.

There's a high chance that your swinging out-to-in, it's common that you won't notice that with the other clubs as the extra loft gives a different spin axis so it won't slice (or maybe will just have a small fade).

Get a lesson to sort out the swing path.

The Driver is the longest and least lofted club and you are probably swing that as hard as you are able more often than any other. So the results of any swing fault will show up most too!
Lessons (and proper practice) are certainly the best way to a permanent solution!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

[Foxholer]

@OP

If you are REALLY interested in what is happening at impact that is causing the the shape, then this article might be some help - and provides a bit of a history of the 'Old vs New' laws - without mentioning the contribution by Cochrane & Stobbs directly (simply providing a link to a, now deleted, US Golf Schools page that specifies the OLD rules!)!

http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/ballflight.htm

 

[xcore]

Iv gone from a massive slice to now a massive snap hook as I'm so paranoid about slicing it. I do hate golf sometimes....

 

[Three]

Iv gone from a massive slice to now a massive snap hook as I'm so paranoid about slicing it. I do hate golf sometimes....

That's possibly the same swing with a different clubface position.

 

[Dogma]

I slice when I try to hit the cover off the ball!

Concentrating on a smoother swing with a better tempo ensures a long drive with a slight fade.

Also, keeping my lower body stable without 'standing up' in to the shot.

As someone said above though, these points may not help you as they did me.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Straight

This is all conjecture without seeing your swing but if the ball starts straight and slices then one possibility is that that your clubface is square to the target but open to your swing path, I.e. You are swinging left of target at impact (assuming you're right handed). You really don't want that combination with driver. Why you are doing and how you can fix it would need a lesson.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Rather than listen to bickering and confused opinions on here, either get a video up so the likes of Bob can give you some sound advice or go to your local range or club pro and get a lesson. I'm sure if as you say the majority of the other shots are straight(ish) then it's something I'm sure can be rectified and you can then work on to improve and hone

 

[xcore]

That's possibly the same swing with a different clubface position.

True, thinking about it they both start slightly right so must have gone from open to severely closed?!

 

[Three]

Rather than listen to bickering and confused opinions on here, either get a video up so the likes of Bob can give you some sound advice or go to your local range or club pro and get a lesson. I'm sure if as you say the majority of the other shots are straight(ish) then it's something I'm sure can be rectified and you can then work on to improve and hone

The biggest problem is people just guessing, the right answers get lost in a sea of misinformation, hence these questions are always a waste of time.

The same swing with a 7 iron and a driver can produce different visual results, people think they just have a problem with their driver swing but actually the lofted clubs mask the issue.
He's swinging slightly out to in, face is open, it's probably just enough to only show itself with the driver.
As always, lessons are the only way forward.

 

[garyinderry]

Just make a video. what have you got to lose?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The biggest people is people just guessing, the right answers get lost in a sea of misinformation, hence these questions are always a waste of time.

Whole a lot of the information may be correct in given circumstances without footage it's all guesswork. A video clip down the line would surely help but the poor OP is getting a barrage of views and hard to separate the wheat and the chaff. Not knocking what you are saying but you have to feel sorry for the poor OP. I agree that these questions are tricky to answer though

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Whole a lot of the information may be correct in given circumstances without footage it's all guesswork. A video clip down the line would surely help but the poor OP is getting a barrage of views and hard to separate the wheat and the chaff. Not knocking what you are saying but you have to feel sorry for the poor OP. I agree that these questions are tricky to answer though

It's quite easy to seperate the wheat from the chaff, 2 posters are Pro's,

 

[Foxholer]

Whole a lot of the information may be correct in given circumstances without footage it's all guesswork. A video clip down the line would surely help but the poor OP is getting a barrage of views and hard to separate the wheat and the chaff. Not knocking what you are saying but you have to feel sorry for the poor OP. I agree that these questions are tricky to answer though

The old adage 'A picture is worth a thousand words' springs to mind! So a video must be worth considerably more!

I'm not knocking anyone's interpretation of what the cause might be! Just hoping to ensure that words aren't misinterpreted!

And it's even easier for a properly trained Pro to identify the cause and provide the solution in person!

 

[bobmac]

It's quite easy to seperate the wheat from the chaff, 2 posters are Pro's,

Ah, but the question was asked in the ''lounge'' so everyone feels they can chip in and help.

That's great and most golfers I've met are always willing to help anyone who asks but as you say, it's hard to know who to listen to.
Without a video of the swing it's always a bit tricky to know exactly what's going on which is why I always ask some questions to get an idea of what the problem is.
It's normally either swingpath, clubface, weight transfer or grip or a combination or all four.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The old adage 'A picture is worth a thousand words' springs to mind! So a video must be worth considerably more!

I'm not knocking anyone's interpretation of what the cause might be! Just hoping to ensure that words aren't misinterpreted!

And it's even easier for a properly trained Pro to identify the cause and provide the solution in person!

Exactly. A video will clarify so much but a decent pro will not only see the issues but be able to work with the swing the OP has to maximise the chance to begin driving the ball well