Sky Sports PGA Coverage
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Odvan
Journeyman Pro
Think Monty lost his way a little in the weather break. His constant 'and err' was beginning to annoy but I do like the old school stories. shame Sky didn't have any features/interviews ready for interruptions.
Happy to hear that play is resuming, school night tonight...
Happy to hear that play is resuming, school night tonight...
upsidedown
Tour Winner
When living in NZ we used to get European tour golf from Euro productions, basically wall to wall golf, adverts once an hour. US golf was complete opposite, wall to wall adverts and about 5 mins of golf. Only way to watch it was recorded and then with finger on the fast forward button
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Good for you. If its nonsense then why do sky allow Nick Faldo etc to talk on our screens with their CBS or NBC clobber on?
Sky pay the american networks for coverage so they are in their hands, on majors we get skys commentators but american network coverage. Facts are facts.
I can install sat navs in cars, doesn't mean i know where the signal comes from.
Seems like you don't know what you are talking about.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
Nah I only worked for BSkyB for 15 years. Wouldn't know a thing about it. Adverts on a subscription service is nothing new. But the point was that the coverage is fed from a US supplier. You could certainly watch the inane chatter that takes place every two minutes and then sections of black screen where they do "sponsor messages" every other two minutes (which for most BSkyB CANNOT show in the UK due to product or licence restrictions)
But as I say, what would I know
Yosser
Assistant Pro
I bow down to your technical expertise. Ignorance is bliss, hope you enjoy the 20 minutes of adverts / hour! :lol:
the hammer
Challenge Tour Pro
Has monty managed to mention " de vere" yet. lexus don't seem to get a mention nowadays.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
No need to bow, you can do your knees that way.
There is a formula for ads, maximum 10 per hour if no longer than 3 minutes, standard is 4 of 7 minutes long IIRC. There can be different combinations but nothing more than 7 minutes I think.
Having watched the ESPN coverage of the Masters this year, I would welcome the ads though, the two guys sitting in the ESPN "lodge" that it cut back to after every shot, and I mean EVERY one, ran out of things to talk about quickly to the extent that they spent 5 minutes at one point talking about a boat the guy had bought the week before, then it cut to a sponsor message for "get out of the rough with Adams" that seemed contextless and just shoehorned in.
We put up with a lot in the UK, but we wouldn't put up with THAT!
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
:thup:
Yosser
Assistant Pro
Nah I only worked for BSkyB for 15 years. Wouldn't know a thing about it. Adverts on a subscription service is nothing new. But the point was that the coverage is fed from a US supplier. You could certainly watch the inane chatter that takes place every two minutes and then sections of black screen where they do "sponsor messages" every other two minutes (which for most BSkyB CANNOT show in the UK due to product or licence restrictions)
But as I say, what would I know
An unbiased view then? There was no excuse for Sky UK's coverage of the Ryder cup it was minutes behind the European coverage in order to show adverts - which the European broadcasters were not showing.
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
Unbiased as I no longer work for them, gave factual response and happy to chide them when they are crap, like my broadband.
The Ryder Cup coverage was somewhat of a mystery even to us that worked there, I won't deny that it could have been better, however I would also have some suspicion that the Ryder Cup had something to do with how it was broadcast, the only thing I do know is that Sky had to make more concessions around the RC than they have done for any other tournament in sport, what those concessions were only the deal-makers knew. Which left my colleagues in Marketing a bit flummoxed. However, that said, that is not the same as the point of this thread which is talking about US based tournament that has a US feed.
Wayman
Tour Winner
It's due to the yanks as they have a break in programmes every couple mins does your bloody head in
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Not completely fair to say Sky has no control or it’s not their fault. They knew what they were buying and agreed that this is what they’d get
While it’s probably impractical commercially/contractually, other feeds do exist and if enough cash was offered then they could be secured by a broadcaster
Actually with enough money on offer we could be watching footage from Rory’s Cap-Cam as he plays his round or a live feed of what happens in Tigers hotel room when he’s on the course (if a broadcaster thought that was worth it) as well as commercial free coverage for 10 hours a day
So Sky (or any broadcaster) is absolutely in control of and responsible for what they show, it just depends on what they are prepared to pay for. Once the deal is done however then they have little control to show more/less
While it’s probably impractical commercially/contractually, other feeds do exist and if enough cash was offered then they could be secured by a broadcaster
Actually with enough money on offer we could be watching footage from Rory’s Cap-Cam as he plays his round or a live feed of what happens in Tigers hotel room when he’s on the course (if a broadcaster thought that was worth it) as well as commercial free coverage for 10 hours a day
So Sky (or any broadcaster) is absolutely in control of and responsible for what they show, it just depends on what they are prepared to pay for. Once the deal is done however then they have little control to show more/less
bobmac
Major Champion
Peter Alliss simply wouldn't allow it
GreiginFife
Money List Winner
As simplistic as you make it sound its not quite that easy. The US PGA are notoriously protrctive of live feeds, businesses can offer as much money as they like but if someone isng willing to sell then thats that. Outside of thr continental US of A there is also problems with adverts and sponsor messages due to product and/or licensing restrictions.
I know a few guys from broadcast marketong that worked on the last rights deal and they said it was painful and that the US PGA were a nightmare to deal with, NFL was much easier as they were more open to the throwing money at them idea.
Wildrover
Tour Rookie
Yeah couldn't believe how poor Stacey Lewis's birdie birdie finish to win a major was last week.
Stub
Challenge Tour Pro
I am appalled at the Sky coverage...I only managed to watch an hour or so last night but there was no coverage at all of Sarah Stirk
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I agree its not that easy ( & it shouldn't be IMO) but lets not absolve any of the parties who have responsibility, in whole or part, for what was delivered to the viewers/customers. They are all responsible inc the PGA, SKY, ESPN etc etc)
No one is holding up the coverage yesterday as 'something special' and that's what we've come to expect from subscription TV (rightly or wrongly)
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I am appalled at the Sky coverage...I only managed to watch an hour or so last night but there was no coverage at all of Sarah Stirk
That's a good thing.
BoadieBroadus
Q-School Graduate
I watched coverage of last year's US Open in Spain with about 1 ad break every 3 hours. I watched the leaders play the entire back nine, every single shot, every player, no ad breaks or studio analysis. It must be online somewhere for every major. No idea what channel it was but it seemed to be a Spanish gold dedicated channel. (as you would assume!)
