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Simon Dyson hearing

Have heard from someone who works on the ET that they are going to come down hard on him and there have been input from other players.
 
I have heard that they are going to hang him. It's in the latest rule book, that capital punishment is now compulsory for minor rule infractions.
 
Fish wives gossip :clap:, I wish I could tell you who told me.

well they cant be in a senior professional position, as betraying that position of importance just wouldnt be professional now would it? and then he told you, who then comes and posts it on a world internet forum :rolleyes:

like I said, the world is full of these types who crave attention by saying they are 'in the know'......but you didn't hear it from me, right:rofl:
 
well they cant be in a senior professional position, as betraying that position of importance just wouldnt be professional now would it? and then he told you, who then comes and posts it on a world internet forum :rolleyes:

like I said, the world is full of these types who crave attention by saying they are 'in the know'......but you didn't hear it from me, right:rofl:

Or maybe he does know someone in the know and has been kind enough to pass on some info to us all.

Not everyone is "craving attention"
 
why? completely different circumstances, Saltman did it on at least 5 known occasions eluding to premeditated thinking. Dyson's action looks to have been a reflex reaction to suddenly spotting a spike mark right in front of his ball when marking. I do believe he realised straight after but maybe was too embarrassed to bring it to anyones attention, but as he never said straight away we will never know.

I hope he just gets a fine and a slap on the wrists for a mistake, a ban affecting his whole career is far to harsh and doesnt reflect the seriousness of the action...IMO
No its not different circumstances, theres players coming forward with all sorts of allegations against Dyson, the ET wouldnt be going to all this trouble for a one off incident.
 
....... a reflex reaction to suddenly spotting a spike mark right in front of his ball when marking

Therein lies the proplem ....perhaps? I struggle to control mine sometimes lol :)

As I said above, I'm sure the panel will consider all the evidence and come to a fair decision based on the known facts. I've been involved in the past with a similar hearing (county player) and believe me it's difficult to prove anything. One thing I would add though is that the burden of proof is only "the balance of probability" rather than "beyond reasonable doubt" so they don't need concrete proof, just to be sure that cheating is the most plausible explanation of the actions.
 
No its not different circumstances, theres players coming forward with all sorts of allegations against Dyson, the ET wouldnt be going to all this trouble for a one off incident.

I do believe the ET had to hold a hearing because the actual incident that happened as opposed other players coming forward

Think it's in their rules or something
 
Struggle to see why the other players would keep quiet about previous incidents until now, it's their livelihoods they're playing out there for, if SD should have been DQ'ed a few times then that's a lot of someone else's money he's trousered!
 
Therein lies the proplem ....perhaps? I struggle to control mine sometimes lol :)

As I said above, I'm sure the panel will consider all the evidence and come to a fair decision based on the known facts. I've been involved in the past with a similar hearing (county player) and believe me it's difficult to prove anything. One thing I would add though is that the burden of proof is only "the balance of probability" rather than "beyond reasonable doubt" so they don't need concrete proof, just to be sure that cheating is the most plausible explanation of the actions.

Hence why if Dyson is too be punished hard on the "balance of probability" he could take it further - and I hope he does
 
Or maybe he does know someone in the know and has been kind enough to pass on some info to us all.

Not everyone is "craving attention"

this one certainly is, it's why they do it, basic human psychology :rolleyes:

..kind enough to pass on some hearsay.............lol, seriously!
 
well they cant be in a senior professional position, as betraying that position of importance just wouldnt be professional now would it? and then he told you, who then comes and posts it on a world internet forum :rolleyes:

like I said, the world is full of these types who crave attention by saying they are 'in the know'......but you didn't hear it from me, right:rofl:

The person I spoke to didn't say "You didn't hear it from me" it is all common knowledge stuff on tour, I just think it best to keep his name out of it. I'm sorry if I offended your obviously impeccable scruples. Any inside the tour info I get in future I will be sure to keep to myself for fear of offending anyone. :rolleyes:
 
No its not different circumstances, theres players coming forward with all sorts of allegations against Dyson, the ET wouldnt be going to all this trouble for a one off incident.

I dont see how you cannot see the different circumstances even when you have the facts laid out:confused:

Where are you getting the information about other players coming forward with all sorts of allegations? link please
 
this one certainly is, it's why they do it, basic human psychology :rolleyes:

..kind enough to pass on some hearsay.............lol, seriously!


How do you know he is ?

You don't know him to be able to see any basic human psychology

I could say you always get those naysayers who dismiss anything and everything but that would be unfair of me to make personal judgements on a forum.
 
I dont see how you cannot see the different circumstances even when you have the facts laid out:confused:

Where are you getting the information about other players coming forward with all sorts of allegations? link please

I have been told by someone that works in the media department ( events ) of the ET that some players have given evidence

Now you can believe that or you can accuse me of "craving attention"
 
The person I spoke to didn't say "You didn't hear it from me" it is all common knowledge stuff on tour, I just think it best to keep his name out of it. I'm sorry if I offended your obviously impeccable scruples. Any inside the tour info I get in future I will be sure to keep to myself for fear of offending anyone. :rolleyes:

yeah thought so, Gossip! and its people like you that fuel the fires!! Theres a man's livelyhood and reputation at stake and you're firmly in the mob holding up flaming torches and rope!


and just to be crystal clear, my impeccable scruples as you politely referred to, is just a normal persons sense of fairplay and justice...based on facts.
 
How do you know he is ?

You don't know him to be able to see any basic human psychology

I could say you always get those naysayers who dismiss anything and everything but that would be unfair of me to make personal judgements on a forum.

I'm just letting the forum know what I've been told by someone who is a lot closer to it than any of us are. How can you crave attention on an internet forum? The mind boggles.:thup:to you though Phil, receiving the info how it was meant.
 
Lets be honest though, whatever the ET decides they better have it water tight or Dyson will challenge it for sure imo.

If he gets made too much of a scapegoat without any solid evidence this might not be the last we hear of it.

I just hope whatever happens we get to hear some proper facts and reasoning but im not holding my breath.
 
I have been told by someone that works in the media department ( events ) of the ET that some players have given evidence

Now you can believe that or you can accuse me of "craving attention"

no, but I'm certainly accusing you of passing on unsubstanciated hearsay!!! giving evidence can mean positive evidence as well.
 
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