Should you be able to get relief from divots in the fairway?

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes. Hitting the fairway should be rewarded with a good lie and it isn’t the golfer’s fault there is a flaw in the turf.

What’s this “rewarded” with a good lie ? What happens if it’s hit and tree and then goes into the fairway ? Or it’s going into the rough then gets a lucky bounce into the fairway - should someone really get the lie they want just because they have landed in the fairway ?

And on the flip side does that mean if you hit into the cabbage and get a good lie you need to place it to get a poor lie because that’s what you should be rewarded ? Or you hit it into trees but have a perfect line out so you need to move the ball behind a tree ?
Golf had elements of luck in it - sometimes bad and sometimes good - if you hit a great shot and it just gives you a poor lie - that’s just the rub of the green , you just move on , that’s the sport of golf

 

[Kellfire]

What’s this “rewarded” with a good lie ? What happens if it’s hit and tree and then goes into the fairway ? Or it’s going into the rough then gets a lucky bounce into the fairway - should someone really get the lie they want just because they have landed in the fairway ?

And on the flip side does that mean if you hit into the cabbage and get a good lie you need to place it to get a poor lie because that’s what you should be rewarded ? Or you hit it into trees but have a perfect line out so you need to move the ball behind a tree ?
Golf had elements of luck in it - sometimes bad and sometimes good - if you hit a great shot and it just gives you a poor lie - that’s just the rub of the green , you just move on , that’s the sport of golf

I disagree. Hitting the fairway (although obviously this will involve luck sometimes) is the aim and should be rewarded with a good lie.

Others have replied saying similar. Are you going to give them as detailed a reply or are you playing the man and not the proverbial ball here? Are the others stuck in a divot and you can’t get a clean strike at them?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

What’s this “rewarded” with a good lie ? What happens if it’s hit and tree and then goes into the fairway ?

I think you’re living in a world of fantasy there Phil...doesn’t happen, at least not to me!

 

[Imurg]

I can hit fairways at my place and have a downhill/uphill lie with the ball above or below my feet
I'd rather be further left or right, in the rough and in a divot because it's flatter.

 

[Kellfire]

I can hit fairways at my place and have a downhill/uphill lie with the ball above or below my feet
I'd rather be further left or right, in the rough and in a divot because it's flatter.

So aim left or right off the tee then. ?

 

[Imurg]

So aim left or right off the tee then. ?

If only one had such control over the small white sphere....

 

[Kellfire]

If only one had such control over the small white sphere....

Have you tried pink or yellow balls? That left handed fella over in the states seems to use them at times and he can’t hit the damn thing straight to save his life.

 

[Imurg]

Have you tried pink or yellow balls? That left handed fella over in the states seems to use them at times and he can’t hit the damn thing straight to save his life.

That's actually true.
He has real trouble "seeing" a straight shot other than a putt.

Our slopes, bounces and the wind make it tricky to be as accurate as you'd like.
Often you have to aim over the left rough and hit a draw just to find the first cut right.....

 

[Jimaroid]

Yes. Hitting the fairway should be rewarded with a good lie and it isn’t the golfer’s fault there is a flaw in the turf.

This is cloud cuckoo land.

The only way you can guarantee perfect turf is to close the course, manicure it, let it mature, and then be lucky enough to be the only golfer on the course.

Maybe for Jeff Bezos it's ideal but for the majority of us it's a game played on a natural surface subject to natural defects.

 

[Kellfire]

This is cloud cuckoo land.

The only way you can guarantee perfect turf is to close the course, manicure it, let it mature, and then be lucky enough to be the only golfer on the course.

Maybe for Jeff Bezos it's ideal but for the majority of us it's a game played on a natural surface subject to natural defects.

Divots aren’t natural defects.

And the fact clubs don’t have the resources to perfectly manicure the course is why I’m saying we should get a drop from a divot on the fairway.

You’ve basically provided me with the evidence for a drop. Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

That's actually true.
He has real trouble "seeing" a straight shot other than a putt.

Our slopes, bounces and the wind make it tricky to be as accurate as you'd like.
Often you have to aim over the left rough and hit a draw just to find the first cut right.....

Do you have windmills as well? Sounds like a crazy golf course.....

 

[Imurg]

Do you have windmills as well? Sounds like a crazy golf course.....

Just built on the side and base of the biggest hill in the county..

 

[Jimaroid]

Divots aren’t natural defects.

Says who?

You've decided that to be fact to suit your desired outcome.

Divots are a natural outcome of the game being played. I expect you also feel that every stance should be perfect too. Why not take this to the logical conclusion and play all golf on a concrete runway.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I think if you hit your ball into the trees and it rebounds into the fairway then you should place your ball into the nearest deep divot and play from there. That would be fair ??

 

[Mandofred]

Says who?

You've decided that to be fact to suit your desired outcome.

Divots are a natural outcome of the game being played. I expect you also feel that every stance should be perfect too. Why not take this to the logical conclusion and play all golf on a concrete runway.

Yes!! I could finally get some length back on my drives!!

 

[Kellfire]

Says who?

The dictionary.

 

[Orikoru]

Divots aren’t natural defects.

And the fact clubs don’t have the resources to perfectly manicure the course is why I’m saying we should get a drop from a divot on the fairway.

You’ve basically provided me with the evidence for a drop. Thank you.

Exactly. As I said earlier in the thread, that's not rub of the green, it's the result of another golfer's negligence in not repairing it, more often than not.

I think some people need to be reminded that we play this game for fun, not to punish ourselves.

 

[Rlburnside]

Don’t think it’s that big a issue really, how many of us land in a divot often? I’ve been playing for over 30 years and it’s never been a issue to me.

I remember one of the few times I did land in a divot I was playing in a Texas scramble competition and one of my team told me to just take it out of the divot, it annoyed me at the time as I know he new the rule but thought it unfair, never played with him again

 

[2blue]

I've changed my mind on this & my earlier vote.
I would never have thought I would but, yes, preferred lies all year on the fairway just like New Zealand GC do.
It's played for pleasure & a difficult enough game anyway so why should anyone suffer because someone hasn't replaced their divot or a bird has removed it to get at food. Yes, I'd be quite happy for that to be the rule.

 

[Orikoru]

Don’t think it’s that big a issue really, how many of us land in a divot often? I’ve been playing for over 30 years and it’s never been a issue to me.

I remember one of the few times I did land in a divot I was playing in a Texas scramble competition and one of my team told me to just take it out of the divot, it annoyed me at the time as I know he new the rule but thought it unfair, never played with him again

At least in a scramble only the first player has to play out of it. Right? Since everyone else will be placing their ball within 6 inches?