should she be allowed back in the UK?

No.

But then again - No.

Having considered it yet again. Still a no.

I can't believe what I'm reading here from some. One of the, if not THE worst terror organisation the world has ever encountered when it comes to the sheer brutality in how they kill/ed their "enemies" (i.e., those who don't wish to move 1,400 years back in time or so).

Binding together people as a bomb belt dominos, putting people in cages and sink them down to drown whilst having it all filmed and edited like it's some sort of Hollywood movie, hands and feet tied with ropes that are connected to two cars going in opposite direction until the bodies are torn to pieces.

What they were doing was fully exploited and shown to the world when the girls left to live that life. They were 15? Soz, don't care.

But we can't stop them from coming back... Well, change the laws then.

"We're better than that"...

Goodness me, I feel sick.
 
Easiest question ever asked on this or probably any other forum - she chose to leave. She stays out forever. Doesn't even get to come back here in a box.
Lesson hopefully learned by a few other idiots as well.
 
I think what's being confused in all this is opinion and fact.

Opinion is held in should she be allowed to return and fact is can she be stopped?

My opinion is that she should not be allowed, criminality aside we make choices in life and we have to live with the consequences no matter how dire, its a sticky road where we get to pick and choose which we can accept and which we can ignore.

But the fact remains that unless a criminal act has been committed then, assuming she actually is a British citizen, then she has the right to come and go as anyone else does that has not committed a crime to their exclusion.

Emotion (and its clearly an emotive issue) doesn't come in to the law. Ask any parent separated unfairly from a child within "the bounds of the law".

Laws often don't seem to make sense but we must abide by them until changed. Anything else, anarchy exists.

Of course, just my opinion from behind my keyboard, very far removed from the situation.
 
IanM said:
Sorry Kelly, you've made comments the use of language, but do you actually think she should be allowed back in, and if so, if active support of ISIS isnt sufficient to lose entry rights, what do you think is? Just asking!
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She is a British citizen - you can’t take that away from her

Regardless of personal opinions she is allowed to return to the country if she wishes .

The country has a lot of people who are British Citizens that have committed horrific crimes , killed people because of their race , because of their sexual orientation, - there are ladies who have married terrorists and still are British citizens. We can’t “remove their citizenship” unless they have dual nationality.

When or if she does return then the authorities deal with her and any crime she has committed - just like any other law breaker
 
Listening to her interview showing no remorse and her whole attitude I really think she thinks she can come back as some kind of celebrity.

She's belonged to a terrorist organisation. Yep she can come back and spend the rest of her life at Her Majesty 's pleasure providing she has her passport and can prove who she is.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
She is a British citizen - you can’t take that away from her

Regardless of personal opinions she is allowed to return to the country if she wishes .

The country has a lot of people who are British Citizens that have committed horrific crimes , killed people because of their race , because of their sexual orientation, - there are ladies who have married terrorists and still are British citizens. We can’t “remove their citizenship” unless they have dual nationality.

When or if she does return then the authorities deal with her and any crime she has committed - just like any other law breaker
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What about a passport. Allegedly travelled on her sisters originally and no guarantee it still exists. Your argument about citizenship seems laboured and even if she is a British national, she doesn't have valid entry documents possibly. Those that have killed for creed or colour will have served sentences where found guilty. Arrest her at the point of entry if she meets entry criteria, including holding a valid UK passport, let the justice system deal with her while having her on remand and then let the courts decide how to proceed. If she can't provide a valid passport leave her where she is
 
IanM said:
As I mentioned, maybe the law needs changing.....
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A law will never pass that allows someone to have their “citizenship/nationality” removed - it’s a birth right

There are laws there already for acts of terrorism etc - if she has broken any of them then that’s how she will be judged and sentenced if required. There are far worse people than her still British Citizens and certainly weren’t calls for that to be removed when they were found guilty. Maybe it’s because she is a Muslim ?
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
A law will never pass that allows someone to have their “citizenship/nationality” removed - it’s a birth right

There are laws there already for acts of terrorism etc - if she has broken any of them then that’s how she will be judged and sentenced if required. There are far worse people than her still British Citizens and certainly weren’t calls for that to be removed when they were found guilty. Maybe it’s because she is a Muslim
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It can be removed even if you are British born in some cases, I think for this woman too.
 
Phil, it makes it cloudier if they are still in the country... if they choose to go leave, why let them back in? (revocation of nationality is just a label)

The nasties you refer to should be in jail if they break the law... as many are.

You need to talk to an Iman about extremism, you will be offended on his behalf!
 
IanM said:
Phil, it makes it cloudier if they are still in the country... if they choose to go leave, why let them back in? (revocation of nationality is just a label)

The nasties you refer to should be in jail if they break the law... as many are.

You need to talk to an Iman about extremism, you will be offended on his behalf!
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So if this girl has been seen to break the law she joins the others that have broken the law in Jail

You can also talk to English people about extremism- it’s not just exclusive to Islam.
 
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