should she be allowed back in the UK?
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Bunkermagnet
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Maybe
I suggest giving the Royal Mail the job, at least we could be sure she wouldn't get it as they would leave a card for no-one home and collect from your delivery office
It's easy to get carried away, but sometimes what seems common sense doesn't apply.
bluewolf
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Do I want her back in the UK? No, obviously not. I'd be quite happy to see her banged up in a foreign jail.
However, if she is a British citizen then she has the right to return. If there are charges to be faced (and there bloody well should be) then she should face them in a British court.
It's not always easy to do the right thing, but it's the pursuit of the right path that sets us apart from the genuinely terrible societies that exist around the World.
However, if she is a British citizen then she has the right to return. If there are charges to be faced (and there bloody well should be) then she should face them in a British court.
It's not always easy to do the right thing, but it's the pursuit of the right path that sets us apart from the genuinely terrible societies that exist around the World.
Dannyc
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Ain’t read all this thread but
How do we know she wants come back? ISIS or her husband would chop her head off for mentioning it she is pregnant there is no way they would allow it
Something ain’t right
How do we know she wants come back? ISIS or her husband would chop her head off for mentioning it she is pregnant there is no way they would allow it
Something ain’t right
thankfully her husband is dead!
Tashyboy
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Flippin ECK, 106 posts later am here. I asked the question should she be allowed back. In my view, not a cat in hells chance. The point has also been raised, "legally she is allowed". If she is, then the law is an ass. In essence she and others know, they can go away and support, fight and murder her majesty's own servicemen who are defending this country and return at any time to be supported financially by this country coz it has gone tits up. How's that right. Don't anyone try to type owt in response coz I am not interested.
She will never ever contribute anything positive to our society.
She will never ever contribute anything positive to our society.
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I suggest giving the Royal Mail the job, at least we could be sure she wouldn't get it as they would leave a card for no-one home and collect from your delivery office
It's easy to get carried away, but sometimes what seems common sense doesn't apply.
"Common sense" could be replaced by ye olde term called natural justice. I think, especially based on her own words to The Times reporter, that we all know what should happen. That is covered by law, which has its basis in natural justice.
As an aside, its a shame that the "common sense" term of natural justice has been replaced/modernised to read "duty to act fairly."
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Do they really ?
People have returned from being over there and have been tried and found guilty of terrorism and have to deal with the punishment given to them
Anyone who has killed a British Soldier and is caught will be dealt with by the law
Oh you've tempted me to type a response
Lets bring her home at our expense. Give her a 2 bed flat, Sky TV and an iPhone.
Dannyc
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Spot on
Bet the kids of British soldiers killed over there would be happy for her to come home and be financially looked after by us tax payers
Tashyboy
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That is one of the points I am trying to make, but it dosent have to be a serviceman does it.
Sweep
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She broke the law in Syria. Sorted.
Bunkermagnet
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Perhaps we should tell Donald she wants to go there. We never know, he might invite her over to help build his wall, as part of the footings
User20205
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If she showed contrition should she be let back in?
brfcfan
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Totally agree. Not enough people take responsibility for their actions anymore, and there is always someone with an apology or an excuse for them.
I would push her out of a plane somewhere over Afghanistan, parachute optional.
GreiginFife
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In fairness, it was you who raised that very point.
Tashy, I tend to find most of your posting lighthearted and jovial in some lovable naive way, but what you have written above is representative of some dangerous thinking IMO and a prime example of why emotion has to be removed from things like laws.
There are many, me included, that don't think she should be allowed to return. But the world does not turn on shoulds. It turns on what is enshrined in law. Law's are not perfect and many (see my example before of a parent unfairly excluded from a child's life) can be "ass-like" but laws have to be specific enough to be enforceable but generic enough to cover multiple scenarios and edge cases. Can you imagine how complicated life would be with specific laws for every situation or case? As a forum of golfers that often decry the rules as being complex or too many or just plain daft, multiply that exponentially and you have the scenario of law for everything.
Law is what we must adhere to, whether we agree or not - otherwise we become no better than those we decry. There are hundreds of utterly deplorable people in this country already that have done unspeakable acts to innocent people and the law deals with them. We often don't agree with the what of the enactment, but we are seldom privvy to the how or why of the enactment.
What do you suggest, we allow emotive subject such as this case define the laws by which everyone else must live? Fair for all then?
What she's associated with is abhorrent, no two ways about it. Isn't it sad and ironic that there's people willing to do something abhorrent to her. Seriously, just have a look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're better than her.
If she chooses a parachute, let’s hope it’s got a great big hole in it!
GreiginFife
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No one should ever have or need an excuse or apology for wanting to see due process carried out.
You would rather murder or severely endanger a 19 year old girl? That says more about you than the people you denounce.
And I am not a "lefty nut" I am a fairly centralist thinker and see that some things are right and some things are wrong without needing to "lean" one way or another.
Sweep
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Utterly ridiculous comment
