should she be allowed back in the UK?

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Having read the story in the original link, as far as I understand it she's not asking for permission to come home as she is still a British citizen so still has the right to come home if she chooses. She is asking for the British authorities to help her return to the UK due to her current situation in the Syrian refugee camp.
 

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I thought that if someone joined an organisation to fight or support someone fighting against our forces (forces of the crown ? ) is that not treason ? if not then it should be. She should be left to rot where
she is . Absolutely no compassion should be shown , i dont think she would have shown any to her supposed enemies so she should reap what she has shown .I just feel sorry for her unborn child and wonder
what future it will have with a parent like her to guide it .
 
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They can and hopefully will strip her of her British Citizenship, she will then be stateless.

Why should someone who left the UK, to 'support' ISIS be allowed to return when it suits them? How many thousands of widowed women with children are in the refugee camps as a result of ISIS, maybe even this woman's husband (also governments but thats another topic). They're the ones that deserve a chance at a better life not people like this.

She has her ideology, she's expressed that and I agree in this day and age we are all entitled to our beliefs but there's a line where it doesn't work when people are intolerant to any other belief. She describes anybody opposed to ISIS as the 'enemy' how can you integrate such people into society?

The problem is they do integrate, they hide in the background, become calculated and then atrocities happen or they brainwash young children into doing their dirty work.
Can you be stripped of your citizenship if you only have one nationality?

She can return when she wants but it’s then what the authorities do when she does ?

If she hasn’t actually committed any terrorist threat I guess it’s hard to charge her etc

The country has plenty of people who have “ideas and beliefs” about removing certain race , religions etc including people who want all Muslims , Hindues etc removed - we as a country don’t remove their citizenship or arrest them etc for having an opinion or belief.

She was young infact still young and easily manipulated maybe it’s a chance to re educate as opposed to be dismissed
 

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Can you be stripped of your citizenship if you only have one nationality?

She was young infact still young and easily manipulated maybe it’s a chance to re educate as opposed to be dismissed
Her comments make it very apparent she doesn't want to be re-educated. I would suggest the chances are she'll come back and look to recruit more IS supporters. Didn't she leave to join a recognised terrorist operation. Surely that alone is a criminal offence and so any chance of her coming into the UK has to be on the understanding she'll be arrested, detained until her trial and then serve a prison sentence if found guilty.
 

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Pretty sure it is illegal to be a member of a terrorist organisation and to promote those views, encourage acts of terror etc. She is ticking those boxes at the very least. Beyond that she is probably breaking some other laws but I would not know precisely what they are.

At the moment the UK does not have to do anything I don't think. She is in the camp without the ability to get back and if the UK govt doesn't want to bring her back then she will stay there. If the Syrians want to send her back that changes things but we don't have friendly relations with Syria so I am not sure how they could send her back, no direct flights at the moment.

Why would we want her back? She clearly still believes in the organisation, would have to be monitored after serving whatever sentence she would be given. She would be an unwanted burden. No thanks.
 
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All those agreeing or believing she should be allowed back or we should accept her, would you be happy if she moved in to your street or next door?
 

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All those agreeing or believing she should be allowed back or we should accept her, would you be happy if she moved in to your street or next door?

Would you be happy knowing that a petty thief moved in next door?

But would you think they should be deported?

Let’s not try to muddy the waters with pointless, emotional interjections like this one.
 

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Realistically she's not going anywhere before the baby is born.
With no relations between us and Syria, the government are unable to do anything.
She needs to get across the border to Turkey, then the government could help to repatriate her.
But if she's due to give birth within days then it's just not going to happen.
Does she still have a passport?
Wouldn't that have been destroyed by IS?
In fact, I believe, she travelled to Turkey originally using her sister's passport so she probably hasn't got one.
So is she who she says she is?
 

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All those agreeing or believing she should be allowed back or we should accept her, would you be happy if she moved in to your street or next door?


Not sure that has any relevance in her returning, if she is British, I don't think anyone can stop her from returning, it would certainly be against public opinion but again, if she is British citizen then she is entitled to return.
 

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She threw her passport away so at the moment she can not move between countries. She would have to apply for a new UK passport.

Having a petty thief next door, unpleasant, is very different to someone who wants you, your family, your friends etc to die. In this case anyway, we are not looking to deport her, we are hopefully not allowing her to come back into the country.
 
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Would you be happy knowing that a petty thief moved in next door?

But would you think they should be deported?

Let’s not try to muddy the waters with pointless, emotional interjections like this one.
She has knowingly gone to help a terrorist organisation, unfazed by a head in a bin, shown no remorse and you equate her to a petty thief!
 

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If leaving the UK to join ISIS isn't a terrorist offence, it needs to be.


Need to stop letting women have the best of all worlds in the law of this country also.

If women want equal opportunities and pay, they can have equal punishments too, like the same sentences men get.
 
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Not sure that has any relevance in her returning, if she is British, I don't think anyone can stop her from returning, it would certainly be against public opinion but again, if she is British citizen then she is entitled to return.
But have some saying she could be monitored etc, would you be happy knowing there would be an almost permanent police presence outside your door or security services monitoring your activities or the media etc etc.
 
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I’d rather my tv go missing than my head
Also what people miss is the fact that, if ISIS had become stable and secure in their areas, she’d be producing the next line of terrorists and wouldn’t be giving a damn about the UK or its people.
 
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