rulefan
Tour Winner
I should point out that the GC and the BoD are the same. The former being renamed as the latter a couple of years ago.
Senior Captains
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doublebogey7
Head Pro
Are senior's Captains roles are all related to the clubs senior's male membership. They do not sit on any other committee as of right. We have a board of Directors all of whom are elected by ballot of all members. Both Men's and Ladies Captain are invited to all board meetings but they have no voting rights.
fenwayrich
Assistant Pro
We have a Seniors Captain. I think that his only role is to turn up at Seniors matches and say a few words at the meal afterwards. He doesn't do any organising, that is done by another chap. I don't think there is an 'election', as such, certainly not of all Seniors, because I am a Senior who doesn't play in the matches, and I have never had a say in who should be Captain. Our Men's and Ladies' Captains are elected by the membership, having been proposed y the previous Captain. They can attend General Committee/Board meetings, but they don't have a vote.
FuzzyDuck
Assistant Pro
No seniors captain at my club. We have a few "senior" members that share the organisation of comps and the like.
2blue
Journeyman Pro
We have a Seniors Captain who organises matches & selects who plays. Nothing else'
apj0524
Head Pro
Exactly the same at my club, the seniors are simply male members of 55 years of age, they have asked for place on the council as Senior representative but this has just been voted down again at the AGM, they have to opportunity to be on the council buy being proposed and seconded for one of the council postions, green, M&H Etc.
Ours is not part of the official structure of the club nor a member of the all-club committees, but more a case of captain of a club within the club. Not very onerous, but organises the weekly competition and the handicaps for them which are adjusted from the EG ones, arranges a handful of away days to opens during the year, and hosts their annual dinner for the seniors captains prize. A big enough group share the bit of work anyway, and its more recognition that they have been part of the core group helping run things over the previous few years.
D-S
Well-known member
Its odds on that the elected members of the Board or General Committee will have a majority of men over the age of 55 anyway.
wjemather
Well-known member
Absolutely. Of the ~12 people (numbers can vary) on our members committee, currently only 2 are under 55, and one of them is the club owner/manager.
We've been trying to get a couple of younger volunteers but it's hard to find those willing to give up a bit of their time, even though it requires little more than 4 hour-long meetings a year for basic members reps.
3 jabber
Well-known member
The terminology is interesting. I'm at a private members club and we are set us as a limited company so we have a board of directors and trustees. These are totally separate from the committee (council) and the trustees basically own the shares of the club. They basically oversee the welfare of the club and ensure the committee and general manager do not do anything to endanger or risk the club from a legal viewpoint.
Regarding captains, we have a club captain (always been male but don't think there is any reason it can't be female), ladies, seniors and junior captains. The seniors captain just looks after his own section but for some reason the club and ladies captains sit on the committee. I believe our seniors have a captain, treasurer and a secretary who organises matches.
Regarding captains, we have a club captain (always been male but don't think there is any reason it can't be female), ladies, seniors and junior captains. The seniors captain just looks after his own section but for some reason the club and ladies captains sit on the committee. I believe our seniors have a captain, treasurer and a secretary who organises matches.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Just curious. Why would the seniors captain be entitled to sit on the committee? Why would he/she be any different to the 'Wednesday Fiddle' captain or the 'young ladies' captain?
Incidentally, are there any women in the seniors' section?
3 jabber
Well-known member
I agree, no need for the seniors captain to be on the main committee. Our seniors pretty much run their own section with an agm etc. No ladies in there, they also do their own thing. I'm guessing the only reason the ladies captain sits on committee is to comply with equality laws.
I suspect most club committees are predominantly, if not entirely, male. No bad thing to have a female perspective on the committee. Also good for the ladies to have a distinct voice.
Seniors are likely covered by some of the other committee members so that is a different situation.
rulie
Head Pro
It seems that the use of the title, Captain, is expected to provide special privileges? Call a person captain, and they need to be somehow recognized? Sounds like most are (much appreciated) volunteer organizers for their specific groups.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
We are same as this - no seniors section as such, so no seniors section chairman, captain or committee. Some senior members take it upon themselves to organise the non-board comps that are specifically for seniors (over 55s) and inter-club seniors matches, but club comp sec organises the few seniors board comps as part of his role.
Alan Taylor
New member
I'm the Senior's Captain at my club and the situation is the same as yours. Having said that our section has deliberately tried to stay out of 'Club' things like setting their own entry fees, no ball sweeps etc.. I'm trying to change things and bring the section more into line - especially with Ladies Section, which is struggling.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Exactly. No need for a senior captain - the captain is probably a senior!
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
We used to have a seniors captain.
That was when seniors section was over 60 and £5 per year to join. This did keep numbers down to a manageable level.
But it was a club-within-a-club and rather cliquey.
It went to over 55 and no "entry fee". So you were in the senior section automatically upon turning 55.
We have a volunteer secretary for seniors section. For matches, anyone can volunteer to be captain and organiser for one match or a few in a row.
Its simply more work than it is worth it for the whole year.
Secretary has less work than before, because senior comps are now run by regular H&C committee.
Secretary will work with the "whoever captain" to send emails out, notice on wall-board, to get names for matches.
That was when seniors section was over 60 and £5 per year to join. This did keep numbers down to a manageable level.
But it was a club-within-a-club and rather cliquey.
It went to over 55 and no "entry fee". So you were in the senior section automatically upon turning 55.
We have a volunteer secretary for seniors section. For matches, anyone can volunteer to be captain and organiser for one match or a few in a row.
Its simply more work than it is worth it for the whole year.
Secretary has less work than before, because senior comps are now run by regular H&C committee.
Secretary will work with the "whoever captain" to send emails out, notice on wall-board, to get names for matches.
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2blue
Journeyman Pro
Yes we have a Seniors Captain but not a 'Seniors Section' so all over 55 years can sign-up for the fixtures & the Captain selects the team. He's not on any committees.
wjemather
Well-known member
One of the problems with "senior sections" such as this, i.e. societies, is in determining eligibility for competitions and matches; for example, are the senior club championship, knockout/league team be open to all club members over 55 or restricted to members of the seniors society? Of course, there should be proper ToCs, but there often aren't.
