bigslice
Tour Winner
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are you any further forward on your search for a new club. im on the search but it will be a good few years before i finally save up! some of the courses mentioned are on my list
Scottish Open looking for a new home perhaps?!?!
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are you any further forward on your search for a new club. im on the search but it will be a good few years before i finally save up! some of the courses mentioned are on my list
SimonS
Assistant Pro
No one has mentioned Dornoch yet.
John_Findlay
Tour Winner
A lot of the tour pros (Ernie notably) say that Loch Lomond is their favourite venue on the rota. They say that is the reason they come to the Scottish Open every year when they could be working on their links game instead. A huge purse thru' Barclays helps too I dare say. It will be sad to see it disappear from the rota. It is a joyous course.
Most of the venues suggested which aren't already on the Open rota are either too short, too far or don't have the facilities. Kingsbarns (Dunhill Links) would though, I suggest, and yes Mr Trump will be getting his PR men on the case immediately I would have thought for his new course but that'll be a few years in the making.
Obviously they don't expect the same crowds as for an Open Championship though so perhaps the infrastructure questions will mean that courses such as Dornoch or Castle Stuart or the like might be in with a shout. I'd love to see a Scottish Open in the highlands or at Royal Aberdeen who hosted the Seniors Open a year or so back.
Most of the venues suggested which aren't already on the Open rota are either too short, too far or don't have the facilities. Kingsbarns (Dunhill Links) would though, I suggest, and yes Mr Trump will be getting his PR men on the case immediately I would have thought for his new course but that'll be a few years in the making.
Obviously they don't expect the same crowds as for an Open Championship though so perhaps the infrastructure questions will mean that courses such as Dornoch or Castle Stuart or the like might be in with a shout. I'd love to see a Scottish Open in the highlands or at Royal Aberdeen who hosted the Seniors Open a year or so back.
Albanach
Head Pro
I did
Crawford hit the nail on the head about Trump; money would be the main reason.
Dornoch, no where to stay. Nairn, would have to close the course. Someone told me they had been offered the walker cup again but turned it down, not sure if this is true or not.
Castle Stuart, possibly once they have built the hotel and cottages. But they would have to close the course for a few weeks and this would cost them and they would probably have to play a hefty sum to host as well.
Alls said and done, it would come down to money.
Dornoch, no where to stay. Nairn, would have to close the course. Someone told me they had been offered the walker cup again but turned it down, not sure if this is true or not.
Castle Stuart, possibly once they have built the hotel and cottages. But they would have to close the course for a few weeks and this would cost them and they would probably have to play a hefty sum to host as well.
Alls said and done, it would come down to money.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
Someone told me about this a few weeks back, but I passed it off as hopeful more than something that would happen.
It's going to Renaissance if their chat was accurate, which is understandable as it's more exclusive than Loch Lomond, so no worries about the membership, it's links so that'll suit Barclays, close to Edinburgh, practice facilities are not bad, but they'll use the club house and facilities at Archerfield as they're better.
Dunno if anyone else has played it, but the run of holes from 9 to 12 are the toughest I've played anywhere, and once the land swap with Muirfield is completed and the new holes built by the sea ( removing the first three inland ones) the course will be even better.I've never played greens so 'tricked up', they make the himalayas look flat!
Oh, and Archerfield are not in any kind of trouble
It's going to Renaissance if their chat was accurate, which is understandable as it's more exclusive than Loch Lomond, so no worries about the membership, it's links so that'll suit Barclays, close to Edinburgh, practice facilities are not bad, but they'll use the club house and facilities at Archerfield as they're better.
Dunno if anyone else has played it, but the run of holes from 9 to 12 are the toughest I've played anywhere, and once the land swap with Muirfield is completed and the new holes built by the sea ( removing the first three inland ones) the course will be even better.I've never played greens so 'tricked up', they make the himalayas look flat!
Oh, and Archerfield are not in any kind of trouble
Albanach
Head Pro
I played it earlier in the year and I agree, once the land swap is completed those holes are going to be tremendous. The greens are excellent as well.
I see one problem....Renaissance is a poor course choice wise compared to the others,worst out of the lot but money talks.
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
I'd never heard of the Renaissance but went to their website
http://www.trcaa.com/index.php
and it does look truly stunning. I'll never get to play it but would love the chance to see it hosting a event on the tv.
It would be nice to see the event go to one of the great links not on the Open rota but it looks like the lack of modern infrastructure is against them.
Would the fact that Kinsbarns already hosts part of the Dunhill links championships put it out of the running?
http://www.trcaa.com/index.php
and it does look truly stunning. I'll never get to play it but would love the chance to see it hosting a event on the tv.
It would be nice to see the event go to one of the great links not on the Open rota but it looks like the lack of modern infrastructure is against them.
Would the fact that Kinsbarns already hosts part of the Dunhill links championships put it out of the running?
John_Findlay
Tour Winner
Never played the Renaissance (probably never get the chance) but have played both at Archerfield and neither are really worthy of a Scottish Open so they're off the list, surely. They're decent but no better than average. Yes, they held the ladies Scottish Open there lately but the light breeze blew the poor girlies away.
Interesting thought using the Renaissance and the neighbouring practice facilities at Archerfield (which are actually good) though, especially after that land swap. Hmmm. Will be interesting to see whether one course hosts it for a few years to come or whether it'll go on the road.
Interesting thought using the Renaissance and the neighbouring practice facilities at Archerfield (which are actually good) though, especially after that land swap. Hmmm. Will be interesting to see whether one course hosts it for a few years to come or whether it'll go on the road.
John_Findlay
Tour Winner
Don't see why it should. They hold 2 major events at Wentworth every year.....and Kingsbarns doesn't have a membership to placate.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
It's not that bad, and take out the Open venues/Dunhill venues and ones that are difficult to get too ( Machrahanish and Dornoch) and the ones lacking 'kudos' like Craigielaw & Gullane, what are you left with?Royal Aberdeen, which I've never played but looks lovely, Archerfield, who would prefer not to host and make money out of hosting players/corporate and keep their courses open and earning during what they would see as peak time, or Rennaisance which is getting upgraded, has 100-odd members, looks onto Muirfield (ideal for 2013) and falls into the same niche category as Loch Lomond.I reckon it's a cert come to think of it.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
Doubt Barclays would want to share the venue with another tourney, they'll want their tournament associated with a unique venue.
John_Findlay
Tour Winner
Everyone who has mentioned Royal Aberdeen to me says it's a blinder and tough as nails. Maybe playing there for a week before the Open would make the pros feel like they've got a holiday when they turn up for the big event. I think the seniors Open produced pretty high scoring, Carnoustie style.
Always nice to have a "Royal" in the name too. Bloody shame Dornoch will probably never host it, though. That would have an even greater mass of tourists come to the area.
Always nice to have a "Royal" in the name too. Bloody shame Dornoch will probably never host it, though. That would have an even greater mass of tourists come to the area.
Albanach
Head Pro
Royal Aberdeen is an absolute belter of a course. The front nine in particular is outstanding and they have done a lot of work on some of the holes on the back nine to improve it.
The Renaissance is in the same niche league as Loch Lomond so could see it going there.
The Renaissance is in the same niche league as Loch Lomond so could see it going there.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I would like to see ALL the comps on the tour played on tracks the public can play. That rules out any private/exclusive set ups like Loch Lomond, and by the sound of it, Reannaisance, (I'd stick Wentworth in there too, with their £400+ green fees). The tour are supposed to be promoting the game of golf, not making it even more exclusive and snotty. There are plenty of courses good enough to hold a tour event that the normal guy can play on.
John_Findlay
Tour Winner
Spot on Murph. What you said. That was always a bugbear (spelling?!) of mine. I went to Loch Lomond to watch and was gutted to think I'd probably never play it.
