Scotland Debate

[Beezerk]

That didn't answer my question though.

Which ever side comes out on top of the pole still leaves a high percentage of Scotland population dis-satisfied.

With how the fires have been stoked in the last few days, I find it hard to believe that any YES/NO voters from the 'losing' side will just say:

"Oh well, that's OK, so long as it's what most of the people want"

And letting it lie.

Would you? Would you be in the same mind as the quote above, or would you still feel that a mistake had been made and/or opportunity missed. Could you let it go that easily?

I find it quite difficult to believe that over 2 million people will just accept the decision and change their minds.

Hmm a hell of a lot of miffed Scots either way, it's going to be messy I reckon...I can't wait
I wonder what the ripple effect will be in the UK if it's a Yes? Cameron will lose all credibility I imagine, he'll go down in history as the PM who let the Scots out of the Union while he sat on a beach in *insert hot country*

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Without wanting to sound disrespectful to anyone...but is anyone else getting fed up of the scenario now? It's littering the TV's, and the same things are said over and over and over again. I realise it is a fairly large issue (and ultimately, i'm not really fussed either way...however, I can see it ending badly if it is a Yes vote).

I, for one, will be glad once the vote has come and gone...however, I am sure there will be plenty of fallout

 

[Old Skier]

50% + 1 vote! The majority will accept the democratic process, there will be a minority with either result that will shout loud and long.

Why would they accept the democratic process. This whole thing kicked off because a minority of nationalist didn't accept the democratic process.

 

[Old Skier]

IMHO this will kick off big style in certain areas of Scotland no matter which way the vote goes. The SNP knew what they were up to and whatever the outcome they knew they will have effectively split Scotland. Bunch of very dangerous nationalist have led the Scots into a heap of crap.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Why would they accept the democratic process. This whole thing kicked off because a minority of nationalist didn't accept the democratic process.

What, like the democratic process of electing The SNP to carry out one of their manifesto policies of having a democratic referendum?

Stop being a daftie

 

[Adi2Dassler]

http://www.spf.org.uk/2014/09/spf-media-release-independence-referendum-2/

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think could be pretty big margin in the end (10%+) - and could be either way.

If I had vote I would be soft YES. But I can easy see myself standing in booth - pausing - and putting my cross against NO. And I think there might be a lot of soft YES like that. So 10% gap NO

Other side is that the pollsters haven't a clue about how many 'new voters' (not referring to 16/17 yr olds) will actually vote and similarly no idea of what they will vote as polls may not be picking up their intentions at all. Thinking seems to be that if they bother to vote having now registered, then a big majority would go YES. So 10% gap YES.

 

[Old Skier]

What, like the democratic process of electing The SNP to carry out one of their manifesto policies of having a democratic referendum?

Stop being a daftie

All the way through this thread Yes voters have openly stated that they want independence because they not likie the Tories. So it's pretty obvious that you have no respect for the democrats process and cannot accept that under it you lose some and you win some. You don't run off with the ball like some spoilt brat halfway through the game.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I think could be pretty big margin in the end (10%+) - and could be either way.

If I had vote I would be soft YES. But I can easy see myself standing in booth - pausing - and putting my cross against NO. And I think there might be a lot of soft YES like that. So 10% gap NO

Other side is that the pollsters haven't a clue about how many 'new voters' (not referring to 16/17 yr olds) will actually vote and similarly no idea of what they will vote as polls may not be picking up their intentions at all. Thinking seems to be that if they bother to vote having now registered, then a big majority would go YES. So 10% gap YES.

You must have some big splinters in your rear end at the moment!

 

[Old Skier]

http://www.spf.org.uk/2014/09/spf-media-release-independence-referendum-2/

Let's hope he's right. A lot of heartache and experience leads me to believe otherwise.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

All the way through this thread Yes voters have openly stated that they want independence because they not likie the Tories. So it's pretty obvious that you have no respect for the democrats process and cannot accept that under it you lose some and you win some. You don't run off with the ball like some spoilt brat halfway through the game.

I don't recall YES voters stating it like that?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

All the way through this thread Yes voters have openly stated that they want independence because they not likie the Tories. So it's pretty obvious that you have no respect for the democrats process and cannot accept that under it you lose some and you win some. You don't run off with the ball like some spoilt brat halfway through the game.

You really have no clue about what's going on

 

[Old Skier]

I think could be pretty big margin in the end (10%+) - and could be either way.

If I had vote I would be soft YES. But I can easy see myself standing in booth - pausing - and putting my cross against NO. And I think there might be a lot of soft YES like that. So 10% gap NO

Other side is that the pollsters haven't a clue about how many 'new voters' (not referring to 16/17 yr olds) will actually vote and similarly no idea of what they will vote as polls may not be picking up their intentions at all. Thinking seems to be that if they bother to vote having now registered, then a big majority would go YES. So 10% gap YES.

Bloody hell flip flop, make a decision for once in your life. Are you a civil servant by any chance.

 

[Old Skier]

You really have no clue about what's going on

About as much as you I suspect.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

About as much as you I suspect.

I'll leave others to decide how in tune I am with this debate

 

[CMAC]

I'll leave others to decide how in tune I am with this debate

you might be in tune in your head, but you are also tone deaf :ears:

 

[Old Skier]

I'll leave others to decide how in tune I am with this debate

Now I understand. I don't agree with your assumptions therefore my points are not valid. You are Salmond and I claim my 10 scrotes.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

you might be in tune in your head, but you are also tone deaf :ears:

I've listened to the debate and answered, I've been scoffed at and kept coming back.I'm confident in my assertions and my point of view and can back it up, unlike most on here.

 

[One Planer]

I've listened to the debate and answered, I've been scoffed at and kept coming back.I'm confident in my assertions and my point of view and can back it up, unlike most on here.

Very true.

You presented the YES portion of the debate very well.

The NO vote too has merits and, personally, I believe the NO carries more clout than the YES, simply because of the lack of guarantees, post YES, by YES.

I, fortunately, don't get a vote, but I will be waiting on the outcome for sure.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I've listened to the debate and answered, I've been scoffed at and kept coming back.I'm confident in my assertions and my point of view and can back it up, unlike most on here.

Agreed, think you've done very well to remain calm at times. It's been really interesting hearing your point of view (even if you are wrong ), and you've certainly made me rethink my opinion a few times.