FairwayDodger
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I think that is fair comment. Your position is quite rational, well thought through and plausible (if slightly over optimistic in places).
I don't agree with you but can respect where you're coming from.
Scotland Debate
- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
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I think that is fair comment. Your position is quite rational, well thought through and plausible (if slightly over optimistic in places).
I don't agree with you but can respect where you're coming from.
I don't think that's very fair. Yes you have argued a good case but built on assumption and faith and sometimes in direct opposition to the spoken and written facts.
Most on here have portrayed equally good arguments and asked questions that have been deflected or ignored by the YES campaign.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. YES and NO want the same things but YES are going about it in a radical and ultimately destructive way in my view, fuelled by the SNP's entire reason for being. - separation.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I have explained why I would find myself soft-YES and voting NO. And it isn't flip flopping.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Ah but Wee Eck (he's on the 5:2 diet and has lost 3st did you know
) doesn't play g...Scratch golfer I believe - or so he told me once
Paperboy
Mini Cam
Only the carriers can't be built anywhere else. The type 26's where offered as a bribe in essence. The british government won't allow miltary equipment to be built outside the UK.
The Type 26's can be made in Portsmouth as far as I'm aware.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-28835583
The type 26ers are being built in Scotland, yes or no victory.
One Planer
Global Moderator
Surely no the bias BBC :smirk:
Paperboy
Mini Cam
Well I work for BAE Systems, and there are preparing announcements dependant on the vote. Sure the BBC know everything
Old Skier
Tour Winner
You may be correct in your assumption but Portsmouth has not yet closed down completely and could gear up if required.
Adi, this fella is hugely out of touch of what is occurring, he is not the only one mind you.
Not worth biting on the line he's casting.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
Well I work for BAE Systems, and there are preparing announcements dependant on the vote. Sure the BBC know everything
I just googled it...
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/bu...systems-shipyard-site-in-portsmouth-1-6207753
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-shipyard-to-close-as-BAE-cuts-1775-jobs.html
evahakool
Challenge Tour Pro
As a fisherman I think if Scotland gets independence it would be a terrible situation for the fishing industry,the snp have not come out and said what the future plans would be,what little they have said is only based on assumptions, this for me is the flawed argument of the snp most of their policy's seem to me to be based on the premise of let's get independence and then try and govern.
IMO this is no way to plan for the future of Scotland
IMO this is no way to plan for the future of Scotland
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
One of last nights TV highlights was two lobster fishermen from dunbar on CH4 news.They basically ripped the pish out of each other, one was yes, one was no.
But I'm interested in your point of view seeing as you work in one of our main industries.My own, possibly misguided, view of fishing the north sea, is the common fisheries policy we signed up to has reduced your ability? Wasn't it a rough deal handed down by westminster? I'd have thought independence would be great for your industry?
Maybe heres why the 1st minister doesnt put an end to the bully boy YES tactics http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...iversity-head-over-independence-concerns.html
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Not sure I agree with, or even follow the logic of this article, however perhaps something for yes-voting celtic fans to consider.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ottish-independence-would-kill-celtic-4275483
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...ottish-independence-would-kill-celtic-4275483
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
I'm now firmly in the no camp.
FairwayDodger
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CheltenhamHacker
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I always thjought the fisheries act was European wide, and therefore couldn't be a rough deal from Westminster?? More likely to be a rough deal from your wannabe new bosses in Brussels!
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
It's european, singed up by westminster and arent there major problems with discagrding perfectly good fish within it?
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
I agree that it's a hell of a rough deal, and there is loads wrong with it, but as part of the EU, I fail to see how an iScot wouldn't have signed up to it?
