Scotland Debate

[Deleted member 15344]

Careful now,the mask seems to be slipping occasionally on this thread recently,venturing towards xenophobia.if you could explain how us Scots have been a drain on the UK is appreciate it.

I agree we have an ageing population,spending money on caring for them instead of trains,nukes,wars and tax evasion sounds like a plan to me.

Do you really believe your politicians will be any different to every other politicians ?

The government won't earn any money by using tax money it look after people - trains etc will earn them money

Think you might be living in a dream land or have far too much faith in politicians

 

[Old Skier]

I believe they think they will create their own armed forces ( from the UK forces ) to keep the bases open

Think the white paper suggests giving them two squadrons of typhoons plus all the personell and some Helicopters plus a battalion

not sure that there are that many scots serving.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Closure by Westminster or by holyrood?

Well if you leave the UK then the UK forces will leave your country and redeploy to other areas in the uk - those bases will then be left empty with no jobs for the thousands of people employed on them

 

[Old Skier]

What a bigoted response, shocking

Fishing for a response and got one.

 

[Val]

Fishing for a response and got one.

Not really a thread to fish on though, poor show.

Debate hard all you like but that was a low blow

 

[Old Skier]

Closure by Westminster or by holyrood?

Westminister I would think as I suspect that the penny pinchers in iscot like the ones in Germany would bill the RUK for the privilege of keeping their troops on foreign soil.

 

[Val]

not sure that there are that many scots serving.

It would surprise, just because the RRoS appears to be light don't underestimate the amount of Scottish people in the Corps as well as Navy and RAF

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not really a thread to fish on though, poor show.

Debate hard all you like but that was a low blow

It was low

Some of the anti English has also sailed close to wind at times also or should i say anti south east England

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It would surprise, just because the RRoS appears to be light don't underestimate the amount of Scottish people in the Corps as well as Navy and RAF

But how many of them are actually serving In Scotland ?

Would they all want to leave their current posts to go back to Scotland ? Especially when some are working in sunnier climates around the world

 

[Old Skier]

Not really a thread to fish on though, poor show.

Debate hard all you like but that was a low blow

Or he could have been just reacting to the Anti British sentiments being expressed by the yes side.

 

[Val]

But how many of them are actually serving In Scotland ?

Would they all want to leave their current posts to go back to Scotland ? Especially when some are working in sunnier climates around the world

The answer to your first question is not many but my response was to how many scots are serving, not how many serve in Scotland.

In terms of your second, I've said before that few with long service would be prepared to join an independent Scottish force

 

[Val]

Or he could have been just reacting to the Anti British sentiments being expressed by the yes side.

Possibly, but need need to tar us all with the same brush

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The answer to your first question is not many but my response was to how many scots are serving, not how many serve in Scotland.

In terms of your second, I've said before that few with long service would be prepared to join an independent Scottish force

So they would possibly look to "hiring" UK forces ?

 

[Old Skier]

It would surprise, just because the RRoS appears to be light don't underestimate the amount of Scottish people in the Corps as well as Navy and RAF

If the state of the amount of Scots in Scotland's last armoured regiment is anything to go by I think 2 regiments might be pushing it and that's pulling everyone out of the corps so the boats and planes might have to go on the back burner unless the pay is good.

 

[Val]

So they would possibly look to "hiring" UK forces ?

I've no idea if I'm honest, I suppose there would be a recruitment process for all rank and file top to bottom and whether uk citizens only could apply or not is anyone's guess

 

[Val]

If the state of the amount of Scots in Scotland's last armoured regiment is anything to go by I think 2 regiments might be pushing it and that's pulling everyone out of the corps so the boats and planes might have to go on the back burner unless the pay is good.

How many Scottish people do you think serve elsewhere in the forces? I seem to remember 4 RTR was almost 75% Scottish.

I genuinely think you'd be surprised.

That said, I'd be surprised if 50% would leave to join Salmonds army

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I've no idea if I'm honest, I suppose there would be a recruitment process for all rank and file top to bottom and whether uk citizens only could apply or not is anyone's guess

These are the sort of finer details that will be crucial to people but get glossed over currently

 

[SocketRocket]

Careful now,the mask seems to be slipping occasionally on this thread recently,venturing towards xenophobia.if you could explain how us Scots have been a drain on the UK is appreciate it.

I agree we have an ageing population,spending money on caring for them instead of trains,nukes,wars and tax evasion sounds like a plan to me.

You talk as if Scotland took no part in the decision making for the above issues. Seems to me there are a disproportionate number of Scots in Parliament and they have in many cases supported wars,Trains and Nukes. Are you also suggesting that Scots have not evaded tax? Are you suggesting somehow that these things were English policy only?

 

[Val]

These are the sort of finer details that will be crucial to people but get glossed over currently

Seems to be a minor point, can't see why it should be as this is a major issue

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Seems to be a minor point, can't see why it should be as this is a major issue

Because thousands in the country rely on the military and defence etc for their livelihood plus the local villages that rely on the bases for their business.

It's just to highlight that there doesn't seem to be many finer points of anything covered by the people in. The yes campaign - lots of presumptions though