Scotland Debate

[fundy]

What would the figures be to make it resounding for you?For me, I'd think 65/35 would be resounding.Which means you think,using recent polling data (something I don't like) that every undecided PLUS some current yes voters are all going to vote No.That's just not going to happen.

This vote will be close, 52/48 is my guess, maybe 51/49.

If you genuinely believe that then you should be filling your boots on backing yes at the 4/1 thats available, betting markets dont have it anywhere near as close as you believe

 

[USER1999]

I am still surprised that something as irreversible as independence can be decide on a 51 percent majority.

You can't even change anything at a golf club agm with 51 percent.

 

[Val]

What would the figures be to make it resounding for you?For me, I'd think 65/35 would be resounding.Which means you think,using recent polling data (something I don't like) that every undecided PLUS some current yes voters are all going to vote No.That's just not going to happen.

This vote will be close, 52/48 is my guess, maybe 51/49.

I would say 65+ would be resounding, Im not using any polling data to say that, it's merely an opinion formed based on speaking to friends family and colleagues. I can count on 1 hand how many people I know who are going to vote yes.

The NO campaign need a minimum 60% vote IMO or it will raise it's head constantly.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

If you genuinely believe that then you should be filling your boots on backing yes at the 4/1 thats available, betting markets dont have it anywhere near as close as you believe

I never said 52/48 to who ;-)

But aye, I've seen the odds and placed my bets.Interestingly, the odds I got last year were double what's on offer now.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

If you genuinely believe that then you should be filling your boots on backing yes at the 4/1 thats available, betting markets dont have it anywhere near as close as you believe

The betting markets called the last Scottish election well, didn't they?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

I would say 65+ would be resounding, Im not using any polling data to say that, it's merely an opinion formed based on speaking to friends family and colleagues. I can count on 1 hand how many people I know who are going to vote yes.

The NO campaign need a minimum 60% vote IMO or it will raise it's head constantly.

The family/friends thing is also interesting.I'm the opposite to you.I know of 4/5 folk who will deffo be voting No and nothing will change that.I know a good few undecideds who could go either way, but the vast majority of my friends/family are voting yes.

Is it a class thing, a religious thing, a regional thing?

I'll pay your subs if No gets 65+....

 

[williamalex1]

aye, because the westminster elite with tax breaks and endorsing tax avoidance of billions really are united we stand with the food bank users of easterhouse and pilton,eh?

Doesn't effect me mate I'm independently wealthy, after my lotto win.:rofl:

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Doesn't effect me mate I'm independently wealthy, after my lotto win.:rofl:

but you get my point?United we stand with a collection of politicians, all of who are privately educated and seriously rich running the country, and todays evidence of the budget being about savers/elderly and not really about the poor and sick doesn't reflect, on the whole, Scottish society very well?

 

[One Planer]

Ask a silly question.

If all the people who were/are undecided didn't vote. What would the Yes/No %'age split be?

 

[FairwayDodger]

but you get my point?United we stand with a collection of politicians, all of who are privately educated and seriously rich running the country, and todays evidence of the budget being about savers/elderly and not really about the poor and sick doesn't reflect, on the whole, Scottish society very well?

Errm, yeah, 'cos we don't have any of them elderly savers up here!?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I've heard this a lot but what puzzles me is who said anything would change if we vote NO in Scotland?

And likewise who from BT or Westminster has guaranteed that it won't. Because until you hear that then voting NO (as for what BT say about voting YES) you do not really know what you are voting for.

 

[Val]

The family/friends thing is also interesting.I'm the opposite to you.I know of 4/5 folk who will deffo be voting No and nothing will change that.I know a good few undecideds who could go either way, but the vast majority of my friends/family are voting yes.

Is it a class thing, a religious thing, a regional thing?

I'll pay your subs if No gets 65+....

Wow, you are confident.

Can't say if it's a class/religious/regional thing at all, we'll find out in September I suppose.

 

[Foxholer]

but you get my point?United we stand with a collection of politicians, all of who are privately educated and seriously rich running the country, and todays evidence of the budget being about savers/elderly and not really about the poor and sick doesn't reflect, on the whole, Scottish society very well?

You are Guff-ing! Again!

 

[Val]

And likewise who from BT or Westminster has guaranteed that it won't. Because until you hear that then voting NO (as for what BT say about voting YES) you do not really know what you are voting for.

Well lets be honest, until someone say it will change which they haven't then there will be no change.

 

[Old Skier]

You are Guff-ing! Again!

Guffed his way through 130 pages but hey oh it's good fun. Next time he crosses the Tamar he needs to look right to see how losing Faslane will effect RUK.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Guffed his way through 130 pages but hey oh it's good fun. Next time he crosses the Tamar he needs to look right to see how losing Faslane will effect RUK.

The Tamar is a river?I don't get the connection?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The Tamar is a river?I don't get the connection?

RN Devonport is there.

 

[Old Skier]

RN Devonport is there.

A little more than that now, but go and play China Fleet (a nice track) and on the way over the bridge glance to your right.

 

[SocketRocket]

A little more than that now, but go and play China Fleet (a nice track) and on the way over the bridge glance to your right.

Or even St Mellion.

 

[Old Skier]

Or even St Mellion.

Most miss out China Fleet becuase of St Mellion but its well worth a play once passed the 1st. Also has good golfers accomm on site.