Scotland Debate

[Doon frae Troon]

Guffed his way through 130 pages but hey oh it's good fun. Next time he crosses the Tamar he needs to look right to see how losing Faslane will effect RUK.

You are very welcome to Trident and the £billions it costs. Don't forget the extra costs without iScotland's financial contribution.
I will feel much safer without it.
The jobs lost pale into insignificance when you consider the costs of the nukes.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You are very welcome to Trident and the £billions it costs. Don't forget the extra costs without iScotland's financial contribution.
I will feel much safer without it.
The jobs lost pale into insignificance when you consider the costs of the nukes.

Do you want to tell the people whose jobs you have just got rid off ?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Guffed his way through 130 pages but hey oh it's good fun. Next time he crosses the Tamar he needs to look right to see how losing Faslane will effect RUK.

OK,Tamar/Devonport I now get, but the rest is lost on me?Why would we lose Faslane?We'd need somewhere to park our boats,wouldn't we?We'll have some boats I reckon.No nuclear subs,though.Do you mean the nuclear subs could go to Devonport?Possibly.But Faslane isn't the big deal here, is it?Coulport is the problem for you guys.Any idea where you might put that?

That's the £1 question.

 

[Old Skier]

Coulport is the problem for you guys.Any idea where you might put that?

That's the £1 question.

Those facilities are already in use dealing with one of the big black sharks already. And as I said its on the right as you cross the bridge.
I agree on the nuke subs, complete waste of money and space. Anyone who has a nuke and isn't willing to use it as a first response is wasting their time however it would increase the jobs market in the SW which would be welcome.

 

[Old Skier]

We'll have some boats.

Great, even the Irish Navy are sending their boats to Davenport and Appledore for repair and refit. Send them on down.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Those facilities are already in use dealing with one of the big black sharks already. And as I said its on the right as you cross the bridge.
I agree on the nuke subs, complete waste of money and space. Anyone who has a nuke and isn't willing to use it as a first response is wasting their time however it would increase the jobs market in the SW which would be welcome.

Based on this reply I'll work on the basis you have no idea what coulport is.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Coulport is currently the place in the UK to store the warheads for Trident Missile System and docking

At the moment it is the only place to do so but it's not 100% certain they can't be housed anywhere else - areas have been looked into

 

[Foxholer]

Most miss out China Fleet becuase of St Mellion but its well worth a play once passed the 1st. Also has good golfers accomm on site.

And for those with a serious slice - like my f-ex-law - St M (Nicklaus) can be unplayable! Never stopped the sod from carving 3 woods to the Green and single-putting though, the bandit! CF was on the radar, but a bit of a trek from Snozzle. I'd have been a wreck too. He drove an Alfa in typical Alfa style!

Back OT.. It is indeed the Nuclear Warheads that are/would be the issue for any move. However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And for those with a serious slice - like my f-ex-law - St M (Nicklaus) can be unplayable! Never stopped the sod from carving 3 woods to the Green and single-putting though, the bandit! CF was on the radar, but a bit of a trek from Snozzle. I'd have been a wreck too. He drove an Alfa in typical Alfa style!

Back OT.. It is indeed the Nuclear Warheads that are/would be the issue for any move. However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

Haven't they already got a nuclear bunker down Westminster way?

 

[Old Skier]

Based on this reply I'll work on the basis you have no idea what coulport is.

Work on what you like, I didn't enjoy my stay there.

 

[Old Skier]

Back OT.. It is indeed the Nuclear Warheads that are/would be the issue for any move. However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

Would be the final answer

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Coulport is currently the place in the UK to store the warheads for Trident Missile System and docking

At the moment it is the only place to do so but it's not 100% certain they can't be housed anywhere else - areas have been looked into

It's 100% they can't be housed anywhere else in the UK just now, and storing them elsewhere contravenes loads of international laws, so France and America are out as options...unless you can provide a link proving otherwise?

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmscotaf/676/67607.htm

 

[stevie_r]

However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

There is a very simple reason why this is the case, the missiles aren't ours. The warheads are but not the missiles themselves.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

And for those with a serious slice - like my f-ex-law - St M (Nicklaus) can be unplayable! Never stopped the sod from carving 3 woods to the Green and single-putting though, the bandit! CF was on the radar, but a bit of a trek from Snozzle. I'd have been a wreck too. He drove an Alfa in typical Alfa style!

Back OT.. It is indeed the Nuclear Warheads that are/would be the issue for any move. However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

missiles and warheads, two separate things.

I thought there was military folk on here who knew what they were talking about,clearly not!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

missiles and warheads, two separate things.

I thought there was military folk on here who knew what they were talking about,clearly not!

I believe Foxholer isn't military

I could be wrong

 

[Old Skier]

missiles and warheads, two separate things.

I thought there was military folk on here who knew what they were talking about,clearly not!

My apologies I appear to be starting to have senior momentswhich went from bad to worse when I mixed the big bang theory with cruise.

 

[williamalex1]

My apologies I appear to be starting to have senior momentswhich went from bad to worse when I mixed the big bang theory with cruise.

The only cruise we have is on the Waverley

 

[Foxholer]

I believe Foxholer isn't military

I could be wrong

No. You are correct.

missiles and warheads, two separate things.

I thought there was military folk on here who knew what they were talking about,clearly not!

See above.

I used to think you knew what you were talking about too, but that has changed somewhat during this thread!

I do know the difference between Warheads and Missile, which is precisely why I used the separate terms. I've only a vague idea where the warheads are 'serviced'. It's the storage of them that's likely to be the most contentious.

Are you military btw?

There is a very simple reason why this is the case, the missiles aren't ours. The warheads are but not the missiles themselves.

I did/do know that too! But possibly worth pointing it out.

Having the warheads 'not ours' would be 'progress' - though not sufficient - from some folks pov too.

 

[ger147]

So when you said...

It is indeed the Nuclear Warheads that are/would be the issue for any move. However, given that much of the missile servicing/maintenance is carried out in US anyway, a simple extension of that arrangement would seem reasonably practical all round!

...you were not suggesting that the US could look after the warheads for us? If so, what did you mean?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Are you military btw?

No, I'm not brave enough, and that's the truth.

and the military dig (because it was) was meant to be directed at skier, I mistakenly quoted you in error.