Scotland Debate

[SocketRocket]

Its unreasonable to think that following a 'Yes' vote nuclear Subs will have to be shifted out of Scotland overnight. There would have to be a schedule of events just as there would be with all other shared public services.

 

[Old Skier]

No, I'm not brave enough, and that's the truth.

and the military dig (because it was) was meant to be directed at skier.

Dig away, unlike the Yes side I'm big enough to own up to a mistake even on the internet.

My skin is thick but my armour was thicker

 

[Foxholer]

So when you said...



...you were not suggesting that the US could look after the warheads for us? If so, what did you mean?

Well, there are all sorts of scenarios.

What's wrong with using US maintained nuclear warheads though? Apart from the fact that it's the UK's only Nuclear Weapon program! They (the US) maintain the Ballistic ones.

Btw. I've played Tennis at AWE Aldermarston and Hockey at AWRE Harwell several times. Eerie places!

 

[stevie_r]

Well, there are all sorts of scenarios.

What's wrong with using US maintained nuclear warheads though? Apart from the fact that it's the UK's only Nuclear Weapon program! They (the US) maintain the Ballistic ones.

Btw. I've played Tennis at AWE Aldermarston and Hockey at AWRE Harwell several times. Eerie places!

Because It's our independent nuclear deterrent, why would you want it kept in the hands of some other nation?

 

[Foxholer]

Because It's our independent nuclear deterrent, why would you want it kept in the hands of some other nation?

I did point that out.

Though having them is the 'deterrent', not designing/building/storing them.

 

[Old Skier]

Because It's our independent nuclear deterrent, why would you want it kept in the hands of some other nation?

Although it wasn't for maintenance the Yanks were happy to have there missiles and warheads guarded and watched over by another nations military force when they were in Germany.

 

[stevie_r]

Although it wasn't for maintenance the Yanks were happy to have there missiles and warheads guarded and watched over by another nations military force when they were in Germany.

And when cruise was at Greenham. There are tactical and strategic reasons for having certain weapons in certain geographical locations.

 

[stevie_r]

I did point that out.

Though having them is the 'deterrent', not designing/building/storing them.

see #1327

 

[Foxholer]

Because It's our independent nuclear deterrent, why would you want it kept in the hands of some other nation?

And when cruise was at Greenham. There are tactical and strategic reasons for having certain weapons in certain geographical locations.

see #1327

So it's not really our nuclear deterrent anyway! The delivery system certainly isn't!

 

[Old Skier]

So it's not really our nuclear deterrent anyway! The delivery system certainly isn't!

IMHO I always felt politically it was never our ​nuclear deterrent but that's for another thread

 

[stevie_r]

So it's not really our nuclear deterrent anyway! The delivery system certainly isn't!

It is, our warheads and the delivery system is leased. Same as anything that you lease it is yours to pretty much do with as you please during the period of that lease.

 

[SocketRocket]

So it's not really our nuclear deterrent anyway! The delivery system certainly isn't!

Its only our deterrent if we have the power to use it. It matters not who owns it the issue is who can press the button.

 

[stevie_r]

Its only our deterrent if we have the power to use it. It matters not who owns it the issue is who can press the button.

Which is the PM or his nominated survivor.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Which is the PM or his nominated survivor.

Gideon with his finger on the button..........another great reason for a yes vote.

 

[stevie_r]

Gideon with his finger on the button..........another great reason for a yes vote.

It's been terrible hasn't, the amount of nuclear missiles launched all over the planet by a succession of incompetent PMs. :mmm:

 

[SocketRocket]

Gideon with his finger on the button..........another great reason for a yes vote.

So if Millipead (or whoever) presses it in the future you think an iSoctland wont get nuked!

 

[Old Skier]

 

[Old Skier]

So if Millipead (or whoever) presses it in the future you think an iSoctland wont get nuked!

I never knew that wall was so good

 

[Foxholer]

It is, our warheads and the delivery system is leased. Same as anything that you lease it is yours to pretty much do with as you please during the period of that lease.

You missed the subtlety of my post, probably not helped by my second sentence. - refer #1330

But...Back to Scotland.

If it's a Yes and they take the Subs away, we could always just Nuke them! We've been shooting and dumping (sorry, placing!) Depleted Uranium in various parts of it over the years anyway!

 

[stevie_r]

You missed the subtlety of my post, probably not helped by my second sentence. - refer #1330

Nothing subtle just, well, not particularly accurate.