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What would the Yes vote need to reach to be credible..?
The same I would hope..
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What would the Yes vote need to reach to be credible..?
The same I would hope..
lex!
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and whats he ganna do when the oil runs ooot ?
Adi2Dassler
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Oil schmoil.We've got wind,tide,wave,hydro.We're all about the renewables.
Doon frae Troon
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As the No vote is the status quo I would think 55-60% is acceptable.
Less than 55% for the yes vote would make it difficult for Salmond to proceed.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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So as much right to comment as "Swings it like Hogan" then!:whoo:
I am a mere bystander making my observations on the goings on. An outsider with little or no interest in the proceedings other than to form an opinion that enables me to partake of an informed discussion with my mother, brother, sister, sister and brother in-laws, nephews, nieces, aunts, uncles, 14 cousins and multitudinous second cousins - all of whom DO have a vote and who have and may well also ask my opinion - as an outsider looking in. But of course it won't affect me. I remain serene.
yes I would agree with that. I'd like to see a very strong 75%+ shouting no!
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Shame most of them arent financially viable at the moment - especially tide,wave and hydro.
FairwayDodger
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You're being too kind on wind but I do think the hydro schemes are pretty viable....
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Ah see - my point all along was that in the event of a close vote either way it would indeed be 'not good' this is where the diaspora would have come in handy - looking wider that local interest to those of us with a broader and different perspective on things.
Maybe not to change the vote but if the diaspora voted NO in a big way then that would give added something to a narrow No by the electorate - and vice versa. Dunno. Just think there could have been value in some way seeking the disapora view even if it didn't actually count in the vote itself - though I still maintain something like 90% weight given to the home vote and 10% weight to the diaspora would have been good - would certainly not have alienated such as myself. So if there are 800,000 of us (apparently a number like that however they reach it) - then 80,000 votes up for grabs. But no - it isn't happening so I accept the state of affiars as they are - and remain serene
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Think the idea is great but it's finding material cheap enough but good enough last and won't get battered by the water.
It is certainly a race for the first company to make it work
FairwayDodger
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Adi2Dassler
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50% + 1 vote will be enough for either side.The Edinburgh Agreement dictates ANY majority is legally binding.
Prepare to be disappointed then.This'll be as tight as a gnats chuff.
Adi2Dassler
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I find them more financially viable than paying French govt owned companies billions of £ to build nuclear reactors, then subsidising the product for years.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and 20-25yrs time technologies will have matured. That said - Whitelees Wind Farm (all 215 turbines of it) near home in Glasgow isn't really that much of a blot on the landscape - that whole area of moorland was pretty unused and desolate in any case. And I haven't actually heard that many dissenting voices about it. Maybe they are just not being heard. Generates enough power for 300,000 homes. Simple sums suggests that you don't need that many Whitelees Wind Farms to power Scotland. Maybe it's not that simple.
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We've had working hydro schemes for decades?
Do you mean the dam schemes around the world ?
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I wouldnt be so sure about that. Certainly not able to produce the levels of power required.
FairwayDodger
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Yes, that's hydro-electricty - many examples in Scotland, the most famous probably being at Ben Cruachan.
lex!
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The existing wind turbines are a disgusting blight on the Borders landscape. I am opposed to any more.
FairwayDodger
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Arguably. Still, it'd be nice to have the lights on during those calmer evenings.
Adi2Dassler
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Your opinion is certainly one that alot of folk agree with.Personally, I like them, find them very relaxing to watch, but I know it's caused issues near my but n ben near kirkcudbright and the solway firth where folk think they're too close to land, or near Moffat where they're removed 100's of acres of land to accomodate huge arrays.
norway might have the right solution...they're off shore ones have to be a certain distance from the shore, naked to the visible eye.Makes it more pricey to bring ashore, but a reasonable compromise.
In Leith there is a competition being ran for local communities to win the chance to erect and run their own turbine beside the sewage plant at Seafield, it's been very popular
