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Scotland Debate

Adi2Dassler said:
Well that's pathetic. I've been in work everyday, I've subjected myself to travelling to Dumfries to watch my 'football' team lose, I played golf with my NO voting cousin and I'm playing fives with a bunch of them tonight.

Life carries on and I'm devising a plan to destroy Scottish Labour, I'll need as many allies as I can muster for that
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Settle down with a wee hauf and relax, Scottish Labour seem to be doing a decent job of destroying themselves, they don't appear to need any assistance. :)
 
Time for a bit of Honesty all round, I am well aware that I am being slated for my views. I am not really an SNP supporter or an independent Scotland supporter. My political views would probably match those of John Smith, David Owen, David Steel and Shirley Williams.
I have rather been forced down those avenues by the total ineptitude of the modern political parties.
The SNP have made a good job of running a devolved Scotland, I think most sensible folk can see that. That is why they earned my vote.

Now regarding the honesty and the 'heckling' of Yes supporters on her......imagine...for one wee moment if the Yes had pulled off a victory.......what would you NO guys and gals be saying on here. Be honest now.
 
NWJocko said:
Very true.

The bitterness from (some of) Yes supporters is saddening to see.

Salmond showing his true colours as a clown he is rather than the Statesmen he's pretended to be doesn't reflect well either. Typical Scotland, praise from all sides for the way the democratic process ran and instead of keeping it up, once the response was No toys are coming out of the pram left right an centre......
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It's very sad to see that some people can't accept their country has spoken

Over on Facebook they have going about a group that has been started called the "45"

Some of the posts are truely laughable

Demanding recounts and suggesting it was fixed etc etc

So much bitterness
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Time for a bit of Honesty all round, I am well aware that I am being slated for my views. I am not really an SNP supporter or an independent Scotland supporter. My political views would probably match those of John Smith, David Owen, David Steel and Shirley Williams.
I have rather been forced down those avenues by the total ineptitude of the modern political parties.
The SNP have made a good job of running a devolved Scotland, I think most sensible folk can see that. That is why they earned my vote.

Now regarding the honesty and the 'heckling' of Yes supporters on her......imagine...for one wee moment if the Yes had pulled off a victory.......what would you NO guys and gals be saying on here. Be honest now.
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Well I expect they would be saying good luck and getting on with life and helping make an Independant Scotland

They wouldn't be acting like a spoilt child who was refused some sweets
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It's very sad to see that some people can't accept their country has spoken

Over on Facebook they have going about a group that has been started called the "45"

Some of the posts are truely laughable

Demanding recounts and suggesting it was fixed etc etc

So much bitterness
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You need to understand if you can how so much of the Scottish identity and social and cultural landscape has for about 100yrs and more been built upon the notion of a nation sold for gold becoming 'free' again. And when given the opportunity we have said No Thanks. I can understand how so many of my fellow Scots will find that very difficult to adjust to. One of the reasons I rather hoped Scotland would vote YES would be to avoid that and the 'fall-out' that has indeed in full swing. And as much as you might weary of the noises North and want Scots to just shut up and get on with it - well that's a bit like telling a manic depressive alcoholic to cheer up and stop drinking.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
You need to understand if you can how so much of the Scottish identity and social and cultural landscape has for about 100yrs and more been built upon the notion of a nation sold for gold becoming 'free' again. And when given the opportunity we have said No Thanks. I can understand how so many of my fellow Scots will find that very difficult to adjust to. One of the reasons I rather hoped Scotland would vote YES would be to avoid that and the 'fall-out' that has indeed in full swing. And as much as you might weary of the noises North and want Scots to just shut up and get on with it - well that's a bit like telling a manic depressive alcoholic to cheer up and stop drinking.
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A new low even for you. What complete and absolute nonsense!!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Sorry, but I doubt that very much Phil.
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Why do you doubt that ?

Yes wer the vocal ones , yes were the ones in people's faces , yes were the ones with the forceful message

No people were very quiet and dignified -

Yes have thrown their teddies out of the cot and continue to do so.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
You need to understand if you can how so much of the Scottish identity and social and cultural landscape has for about 100yrs and more been built upon the notion of a nation sold for gold becoming 'free' again. And when given the opportunity we have said No Thanks. I can understand how so many of my fellow Scots will find that very difficult to adjust to. One of the reasons I rather hoped Scotland would vote YES would be to avoid that and the 'fall-out' that has indeed in full swing. And as much as you might weary of the noises North and want Scots to just shut up and get on with it - well that's a bit like telling a manic depressive alcoholic to cheer up and stop drinking.
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That's just a blob of nonsense
 
bluewolf said:
For the love of all that is holy, please don't destroy Scottish Labour. You do realize what that will do to us down here in the North of England don't you???
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Ha! I think Labour are close to destroying themselves in England too...refusal to back more English only voting at Westminster ( I think there should be btw) will result in a backlash in May south of the border.
 
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