Scotland Debate

[CMAC]

right, got a 1.30 tee off at Gleneagles so I'm off to enjoy my country and leave the bitter and twisted YES campaigners to stew in their own bile. Let us all know when you're 'back in the room'.

Well done some of the respectful YES campaigners who accept democracy results without a moan- many could learn from you:thup:

 

[Deleted member 1418]

My own view is that the only losers from the Referendum are the politicians from all parties and across all four nations of the UK. In Scotland it is the rejection - to a degree - of nationalism and what the SNP represents. I hope this is therefore the case in Wales, NI and England as well. Then in Westminster it is the wake-up call that the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrate parties must do better for all of the people of this great nation of ours. They must also realise that what made Britain 'Great' in the past is just that - in the past. They now have a responsibility to re-draw our 'constitution' to deliver real change for all, and that must mean more powers for the devolved administrations as well as a fairer voice for England on England only issues.

My only worry is that the current crop - and I include those politicians in the respective Scottish, Welsh and NI parliaments, are not up to the task. This also needs to be done right, so need to be realistic and expect change to take time. I expect we'll need a fair bit patience!

 

[Adi2Dassler]

All the experts thought the 16-18 year old's were locked in YES, how wrong were they.

They were 71/29 in favour of independence

 

[JustOne]

My only worry is that the current crop - and I include those politicians in the respective Scottish, Welsh and NI parliaments, are not up to the task.

When has government EVER been comprised solely of people who ARE up to the job?

It's always the same crap, different day.

There is no silver spoon, pot at the end of the rainbow, never will be.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

They were 71/29 in favour of independence

Proof they shouldn't have been given the vote (joke)

Although in all honesty, I don't feel that 16-17 year olds are mature enough to make such a big decision. What you think you know at 17, you find out in the years to come how wrong you were!

 

[JustOne]

What you think you know at 17, you find out in the years to come how wrong you were!

Beer should be free!!!!


....and it's not drinking that causes fights, smashed high streets, full casualty wards or domestic violence

 

[FairwayDodger]

Proof they shouldn't have been given the vote (joke)

Although in all honesty, I don't feel that 16-17 year olds are mature enough to make such a big decision. What you think you know at 17, you find out in the years to come how wrong you were!

It was a blatant attempt at gerrymandering the vote.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

It was a blatant attempt at gerrymandering the vote.

I don't know who gerry mander is but that doesn't sound good!

 

[Stuey01]

It was a blatant attempt at gerrymandering the vote.

Thank goodness the old buggers were there to balance it out

 

[JustOne]

They were 71/29 in favour of independence

Until Microsoft offered them free copies of Minecraft and 50 free texts to vote No

 

[williamalex1]

I'd bet £100 that yes would get between 45-50% of the vote , the actual vote was yes 44.70% so i'm sad and glad.

 

[gdc]

Whilst I can empathise with the Yes voters and their sense of an opportunity missed I am happy that you won't be leaving us.

You Scots stand up for who you are and you say it as it is. You should rename yourselves to England 'but without the B*** and with some morales' although that doesn't really roll off the tongue.

Whenever I have been to Scotland I have always thought 'I could live in this place'.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So the pensioners won it for NO. One man,one vote, but those leaving this mortal coil sooner than most decide the future for the rest of us.

No different than 5% of the UK deciding the future of the UK

It starting get very bitter about the result on social media

Lots of "traitors to the country" etc being posted.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The map of Scotland and what they decided - red is no



And this made me giggle

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I don't read too much here that is bitter and twisted from disappointed YES voters - but please 'non-Scots' don't tell them that you are pleased Scotland said NO because Scots are friendly and Scotland is a nice place to visit.

I'm OK with a NO though in my heart I am disappointed,

 

[Val]

A wee bit of grace in victory wouldn't go amiss, some of us are hurting pretty badly here.

Mate, condolences to you and without me massaging your ego you voiced your opinions and backed them up with fact and ignored nothing (unlike a few others)

I take my hat off to you.

 

[Val]

Gordon Brown certainly saved the UK.
His 'It is not their flag' speech was quality and turned a lot of heads.

All the experts thought the 16-18 year old's were locked in YES, how wrong were they.

Almost 3/4 were yes, is that not locked in enough?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Mate, condolences to you and without me massaging your ego you voiced your opinions and backed them up with fact and ignored nothing (unlike a few others)

I take my hat off to you.

Thanks.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Almost 3/4 were yes, is that not locked in enough?

I am not sure I agree with that, how were they able to come up with that figure.
[Other than the small sample exit poll.]

 

[Val]

I am not sure I agree with that, how were they able to come up with that figure.
[Other than the small sample exit poll.]

So we should believe your logic rather than a sample exit poll?