Adi2Dassler
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A wee bit of grace in victory wouldn't go amiss, some of us are hurting pretty badly here.
Scotland Debate
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Foxholer
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Just remember when you do go there that some deem that term offensive!
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
It's a good point. There's no "yes" and "no" now, we're all Scots going forward.
Going to be a wee bit bumpy the next couple of days, at least. A bit of triumphalism on one side and sour grapes on the other is unfortunate but only to be expected.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
I think you should still take it as a victory. To galvanise that much debate, that many voters, and the promise of extra powers either way was a brilliant effort, well done.
As I said before, you were one of the few YES voters who I truly felt understood more of the issues, and knew what they wanted, so I can understand why you're hurting. Well done on staying classy throughout the whole campaign. There are a lot of other people (YES and NO) who could learn from that.
If it helps, I'm drinking Irn Bru today to celebrate the Union staying together. And that's not even a joke.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
I spent last night in the quite excellent Bow Bar in Victoria Street in Edinburgh, there was quite an electric feeling.
Me and my friend sat with a Danish politics student and a Catalan Journalist talking about life as a European and social democracy as we witnessed yesterday.I hope it's not lost and the momentum, UK wide, is continued.
Me and my friend sat with a Danish politics student and a Catalan Journalist talking about life as a European and social democracy as we witnessed yesterday.I hope it's not lost and the momentum, UK wide, is continued.
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User62651
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Can we have Berwick upon Tweed back in Scotland and you can officially have Doncaster back in England!
The no's now need to make sure their masters deliver the 'vows'..... I'll no be holding my breath. We have no chance of a yes while we have a 'national' media who are so hugely supportive of Westminster.
Scotland shat it.
Never, ever has there been a more hollow phrase than 'Scotland The Brave'. Rise and be a nation again? Give me a break. Time to bin them... Scotland has missed out on a huge, huge opportunity. A year down the line all those No's who are this morning patting themselves on the back will realise how empty the 'victory' actually was.
Scotland shat it.
Never, ever has there been a more hollow phrase than 'Scotland The Brave'. Rise and be a nation again? Give me a break. Time to bin them... Scotland has missed out on a huge, huge opportunity. A year down the line all those No's who are this morning patting themselves on the back will realise how empty the 'victory' actually was.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm not so sure you would reciprocate that sentiment if you'd have 'won' BUT that said I'm sure lots of us appreciate that it must be hard to accept, especially seeing as the vote was indeed pretty close. I'm sure there was a lot of 'breath holding'. My personal sentiment is that common sense prevailed, whether that means anything I'm not sure. At least we should be looking to take the UK FORWARD from this but that's not going to be easy if people are busy licking their wounds or harbouring bitterness.
Bobirdie
Journeyman Pro
Hopefully we can move forward as a nation. Looking at the support both sides of the campaingn received I wish the folk of Scotland would put the same amount of time/effort into St Andrews day as they do for our Irish friends days.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Wow, could you be any more different to A2D?? How bitter do you sound? You lost. Accept it, and stop criticing the no's.
MarkA
Head Pro
A year down the line you'll still be a stable member of a United Kingdom - whereas if you'd got independence you'd have been scrabbling from one crisis to another whilst Salmond made up more lies and disinformation. Never have I heard a politician spout such utter drivel with absolutely nothing to back it up. The real danger was that the 16 and 17 year olds would have swallowed it and ruined there futures! I'm glad your still with us but lets leave the Braveheart rubbish to history. these are difficult times we live in and there are strength in numbers and unity.
Bitterness?
Swap it for the reality.
We have to live with the result but I truly believe that Scotland will regret it.
Anyway I am off to Glencoe for a long weekend among the beauty that is up there.
Enjoy your weekend folks!
Enjoy your weekend folks!
JCW
Journeyman Pro
I posted on here it would be a no vote and so it is , come the hour , many voters went with what they know then what was being promise , be a bit of bitterness for a bit then things will settle down
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
Cameron statement this morning is interesting. Still committing to further powers for Scotland, and mobilising people to take it forward. Also strongly hinting about devolved powers in England.
This is a momentous day not just for Scotland but for the whole political landscape in the UK. And we have the Scots who drove this debate to thank for that. Yes may have "lost" but the whole UK could benefit from the change that has started here in the long term.
This is a momentous day not just for Scotland but for the whole political landscape in the UK. And we have the Scots who drove this debate to thank for that. Yes may have "lost" but the whole UK could benefit from the change that has started here in the long term.
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As I said a while back IF it happens, IF, the Scots should be thanked for improving the political landscape instead of sitting still and middling along.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Clearly not. The majority don't want what you want. Must be weird waking up to slag off +55% of your own kin and realise that you live in a Country that DOESN'T WANT to go it alone.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
So the pensioners won it for NO. One man,one vote, but those leaving this mortal coil sooner than most decide the future for the rest of us.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
What happened to "respect your elders"?
Maybe they have been around for longer, seen a lot more than most, and are in a better place to judge. God forbid, what if they made their decision based on the long term future of their relatives rather than their own short term aims?!
JustOne
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