SocketRocket
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So it looks like EU membership is not an option.
Scotland Debate
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stevie_r
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Fat Eck has been told this previously, on the first occasion he briefly pulled his head from the sand to state 'no, it will be fine, we can just join straight away'. The man is an utter idiot.
Foxholer
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Er. That's debatable. But I wouldn't expect that it wouldn't be immediate. And would be 'difficult if not impossibe'
But it certainly focuses the SNP's rejection of the ERM/Euro which, I believe, wouldn't help their case. I don't believe the argument that 'Scotland is already a member' holds water either, but that's one for the politicians/diplomats!
SwingsitlikeHogan
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That actually isn't what Barroso said...'difficult' is not the same as 'not an option'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland/
Also interesting opinion piece in yesterday's Daily Telegraph by an economics commentator who would prefer Scotland to remain in the Union. His view was that in the event of a YES vote there is no realistic alternative to a 'sterling-zone' and that the rUK would accommodate Scotland in one despite there being some risks and negatives for the rUK. Simply that the risks and issues associated with any alternative were too great for the rUK.
Doon frae Troon
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No one seems to be talking about the risks to the dUK, so perhaps Lord Soapy is not the only guy with his head in the sand.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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the dUK - devolved UK?
And you might say that in the event of an independent Scotland the rUK is not the same country as the one that joined the EU. Only jesting - except perhaps rUK getting told that we must apply to join the EU would suit the Cameroonians down to the ground - they wouldn't have to bother about holding the IN/OUT EU referendum in 2017 - as the would already be out.
SocketRocket
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Doon frae Troon
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I was amused by the Scottish politician saying it was preposterous from the European Chairman ( whatever he is )
Good to see these Scottish politicians saying how it is going to be - arrogance beyond belief - since when did these a Scottish politicians decide what Europe or the Bank of England are going to do.
Good to see these Scottish politicians saying how it is going to be - arrogance beyond belief - since when did these a Scottish politicians decide what Europe or the Bank of England are going to do.
Foxholer
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Some might choose eUK - enhanced!
A Glossary/Cast List might be handy. Fat Eck I've worked out - Leader of the Fish Party. But please enlighten me as to who Lord Soapy is?
Yes. that amused me too! President btw.
John Swinney's looking to be Scotland's Ambassador to EU with comments like that! Still, it won't be the same guy he has to deal with by the time any negotiation comes around - assuming the vote is a 'Yes'
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drawboy
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Get the borders shut, round em all up and send 'em home where they want to be roamin the glomin.
Doon frae Troon
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Lord Soapy is an Oor Willie cartoon character with more than a passing likeness to Eck
Daphne and Horace are characters from The Broons with a likeness to Sturgeon and Swinney.
Cameroonian is our leader who has just recently come out as a Great Scot.
Daphne and Horace are characters from The Broons with a likeness to Sturgeon and Swinney.
Cameroonian is our leader who has just recently come out as a Great Scot.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
...and I wouldn't want to suggest any associations with the great Scottish regiment - the Cameronians (Scottish Rifles).
Interesting perhaps that I suspect most here don't realise how iconic the young Margo is to Scot Nats - though she has fairly long since eschewed the SNP camp. I imagine interesting discussions with Mr Sillars.
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Doon frae Troon
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Just had a thought ...Cameroonians conversion makes the last three UK PM's Scottish.
Perhaps this nationalist thing is just a bit of tosh and the Scots should stay as they are and continue to lead the UK.
Michael Gove the next perhaps? [provided he can backfoot the U Kippers]
Perhaps this nationalist thing is just a bit of tosh and the Scots should stay as they are and continue to lead the UK.
Michael Gove the next perhaps? [provided he can backfoot the U Kippers]
Adi2Dassler
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So, just to recap, Scottish citizens will be removed from Europe,refused access to their currency,vetoed from joining NATO,not have sufficient defence forces to protect our borders from rampaging terror cells,have the economic output of Albania,have sections of the upper clyde partitioned and have border controls in place between Scotland & England.
We've had the three main parties @ Westminster all come out in a united front against self determination...never happened in peace time before and we've seen the foreign office use diplomatic channels asking Spain and Russia to become involved on behalf of BT.
And all while this is happening polls show YES gaining momentum and closing the gap, and all the while the negative aspects of independence are continually spewed by the MSM,politicians and the political succulent lamb brigade.Are they learning nothing?
Anyone who sees anything but a YES victory now is seriously deluded.
We've had the three main parties @ Westminster all come out in a united front against self determination...never happened in peace time before and we've seen the foreign office use diplomatic channels asking Spain and Russia to become involved on behalf of BT.
And all while this is happening polls show YES gaining momentum and closing the gap, and all the while the negative aspects of independence are continually spewed by the MSM,politicians and the political succulent lamb brigade.Are they learning nothing?
Anyone who sees anything but a YES victory now is seriously deluded.
MegaSteve
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Out of the Union...
Out of the EU...
No currency union...
Sounds like a good basis for a truly independent self determining nation...
May I come and join you?
Out of the EU...
No currency union...
Sounds like a good basis for a truly independent self determining nation...
May I come and join you?
Doon frae Troon
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I had that thought the other day, there may be a deluge of U Kippers seeking political asylum in Scotland.
Better set up the border controls ASAP.
stevie_r
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When and by whom was a veto against NATO membership mentioned?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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@Adi - whilst you may be accused of over-egging the situation - just taking the Barroso and Osborne statements together and believing both, highlights the preposterousness of it all. Let us imagine that Barroso is correct and Scotland cannot get into the EU (and note that his gloom and doom scenario for membership wasn't given any timescales - he was saying Scotland would struggle to get into the EU - EVER). Scotland could therefore also clearly not use the Euro as currency. In that scenario I struggle to imagine that the rUK would actually let Scotland find it's own way outside of the EU and outside of a 'Sterling-Zone' - and sink or swim - when sink would have a massive negative impact on the rUK economy?
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Adi2Dassler
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http://archive.is/l5TMI
and re-iterated just last week Labour grandee and the worlds bitterest man, Dr Michael Kelly
