Scotland Debate

[Doon frae Troon]

Is that a young Margaret Thatcher?

 

[Imurg]

The YES campaign is gambling on what they consider a near certainty that - whatever the Westminster parties say today (or yesterday) - if push came to shove and an iScotland came knocking on door of #11 Downing Street seeking a 'sterling-zone', then the rUK government would be pragmatic and say OK - purely in the interests of the rUK economy. And that may even be in acceptance that it is not what the rUK would have wanted in an ideal world.

Even the best Gamblers get it wrong......

Come the vote I hope they will have an idea of what is being offered .

Come the vote I would hope they know EXACTLY what they are being offered....astonishing to think otherwise.

So Westminster, it seems, is unanimous in their view that the £ stays as it is and the Scots have to find something else - so what is Salmond's Plan B..? or is he going to "Gamble"..?
That in itself would be enough for me....

 

[Adi2Dassler]

scotland can use the £ whether england likes it or not

 

[bluewolf]

england

I'll assume you mean rUK, to use the current terminology..... "Pedantic mode off"

 

[Deleted member 18588]

scotland can use the £ whether england likes it or not

Yes but would any independent nation wish to have a currency over which it had no control or say.

Your shouting suggests that those in favour of independence have not thought it through but inhabit a dreamworld where everything is free and nobody need worry about costs and consequences because if it all goes wrong you can ask those nasty people in England to put it right.

 

[Old Skier]

Up to a few years ago the stroppy teenager used to pack their bags shout "I'm off", and go. Today's stroppy teenager shouts "I'm off" and takes half the house with them and expects their parents to continue to supply the finances for their little venture.

Seems like it's moved up a tier.

 

[Foxholer]

Up to a few years ago the stroppy teenager used to pack their bags shout "I'm off", and go. Today's stroppy teenager shouts "I'm off" and takes half the house with them and expects their parents to continue to supply the finances for their little venture.

Seems like it's moved up a tier.

:clap::rofl:

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Is that a young Margaret Thatcher?

You know quite well who it is...and I'm guessing that Grantham Lincs. doesn't have too much housing of the sort in the background. I'm guessing that some older non-Scots will know or be able to guess who this is (click on image to get first name of the glamorous blonde )

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You know quite well who it is...and I'm guessing that Grantham Lincs. doesn't have too much housing of the sort in the background. I'm guessing that some older non-Scots will know or be able to guess who this is (click on image to get first name of the glamorous blonde )

Margo from The Good Life then.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Yes but would any independent nation wish to have a currency over which it had no control or say.

Your shouting suggests that those in favour of independence have not thought it through but inhabit a dreamworld where everything is free and nobody need worry about costs and consequences because if it all goes wrong you can ask those nasty people in England to put it right.

Thanks for talking down to me, your fitting in nicely with the stereotype we're experiencing up here.

Nothing in life is free, some things you pay for that you neither require or use.Look out for The Adam Smith institute weighing in with some interesting views over the next few days.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

we're experiencing up here.

Ahem. DfT doesn't like people using "up here" or "down here".

Also, it's a bit rich to be referring to "talking down to me", when you've pretty much shouted all over a thread.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Ahem. DfT doesn't like people using "up here" or "down here".

Also, it's a bit rich to be referring to "talking down to me", when you've pretty much shouted all over a thread.

True, so I apologise.I get fed up with misinformation,assumption and arrogance, things, as a Nationalist ( but not SNP supporter) who spends alot of time in England I experience quite often.I'll debate this with anyone who is interested, I'm really passionate about it and this year is mega, but folk claiming Scots expect everything free and we'll run up masses of debt are ignorant.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Thanks for talking down to me, your fitting in nicely with the stereotype we're experiencing up here.

Nothing in life is free, some things you pay for that you neither require or use.Look out for The Adam Smith institute weighing in with some interesting views over the next few days.

And you are neatly fitting the image of the chippy Scot.

I fail to see where I have talked down to you. Merely stated that I cannot see what the Yes camp are offering the Scottish people as an alternative to currency union. It is all very well saying that ultimately Westminster will agree to this but surely the electorate would like to be informed what Mr Salmond proposes if this does not happen.

Ultimately it is your choice but I find it hard to accept that a truly independent Scotland would be prepared to forego fiscal control and all that it entails.

I don't do patronising!

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Ultimately it is your choice but I find it hard to accept that a truly independent Scotland would be prepared to forego fiscal control and all that it entails.

One last time.We could use the £, not enter a currency union and have full fiscal control over taxation etc.Being IN a currency union means some of that would have to be ceded, no currency union but using the £ is different.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

One last time.We could use the £, not enter a currency union and have full fiscal control over taxation etc.Being IN a currency union means some of that would have to be ceded, no currency union but using the £ is different.

But with no control over interest or exchange rates and no bank of last resort for your financial institutions.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I don't do patronising!

Aye right!!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Aye right!!

Keep "chipping" away.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Ahem. DfT doesn't like people using "up here" or "down here".

Also, it's a bit rich to be referring to "talking down to me", when you've pretty much shouted all over a thread.

Slightly better than being called 'them' though!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Keep "chipping" away.

FGS I'm agreeing with you!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

FGS I'm agreeing with you!

My apologies. Subtlety and grace are clearly not my strong suits. Not very good at tact and diplomacy either. Good job I didn't seek a career in the Foreign Office.